• zephorah@lemm.ee
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    What most of these ignorant politicos and evangelicals don’t get about late term abortions is it’s stillbirth removal.

    And, abortion is a medical procedure where the nomenclature doesn’t care about context. The medical chart says abortion for chosen termination, expedited miscarriage (to avoid bleeding out & pain), stillbirth removal, etc. I do not know if that nomenclature holds for “pruning” implanted fetuses in the IVF process.

    Tangentially, enough politicians and Barrett herself have groused about “domestic supply of infants”, birth rates, and such that IVF will never suffer the same fate as abortion access, no matter what evangelicals feel on the topic. How the evangelicals feel was never the primary point.

    Did the study mention how much mother mortality AND overall hospital stays for both mother and child increased as a result?

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    So. You mean forcing people who: May not want the child; Have a barely viable fetus; Have health complications; May not be able to afford food; Etc; to go through the entire pregnancy and birth a child, results in a greater number of born children dying? Whodathunk?

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      I guarantee Republicans thunk, but it’s that they simply don’t care.

      Those babies are born, goddamnit, and it’s God’s problem plan whether they live or die. I wish that was sarcasm.

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        I’ll make the argument that they neither think nor care. They got their political W and have moved on to some new, bright, shiny fuckery

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        No, it’s military fodder. Poor people, After all make up most enlisted. Workforce fodder. And people with kids to focus on don’t have time or inclination to riot, protest, punch up, form unions, or go on strike. Children will always be the bigger concern.

        That it intersects with the evangelical vote is happy coincidence.

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          Anymore the military fodder is the happy coincidence, it’s the capitalists who need people willing to work hard, for shit wages, and then spend all those wages on rent and food.

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      Year-over-year, 255 more infants, defined as babies under one year old, died in 2022 than in 2021.

      So, 1961 infant deaths in 2021 and 2216 in 2022, amounting to a 13% increase in total infant deaths. The rising mortality rate appears to be driven by congenital defects in the newborns.

      The majority of excess deaths over the previous year were caused by congenital anomalies, the study found, while deaths due to other reasons like complications during the pregnancy also increased year over year; the data showed that babies born with congenital anomalies increased in Texas by nearly 23 percent but decreased across the U.S. by 3 percent.

      So, basically, Texas mothers are being told the fetus is nonviable and doomed to die. But then the state prohibits the mother from terminating the pregnancy. She’s got to carry the baby to term, give birth, and then watch the baby live a few tortured months in the NICU before expiring.

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        Not disputing the numbers you’re showing but another post in c/news (below) was saying 8% today, and Beau of the Fifth Column’s youtube channel was saying 8% last night so I’m confused about the discrepancy. At work right now so can’t really research what’s up

        8% figure in this link https://lemmy.world/post/16899680

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    Maybe because despite teaching safe sex, some men still don’t know how to wear a fucking condom ? Also don’t start with the rapist thing with me please. Not here to have that argument.

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      Infant mortality rate, idiot. These are babies that are already conceived, not extra conceptions. Learn to read before you hate things you don’t understand.

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        thanks for turning to insults instead of the informed comment someone else left. what trash.

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          So you admit to already being informed but still make ignorant infammatory comments…

          The irony in your insults… if only you were smart enough to know what irony was. Poor thing.

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            English must not be your first language, so I understand what the confusion is Someone replied to THIS comment with some more context. Thanks for measuring my intelligence based on your misunderstanding of the English language.

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              What you don’t seem to understand is, you already admitted to knowing you’re wrong. The projection is truly astounding. You should try growing up a few years. It’ll make those comebacks funnier at least.

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      some men still don’t know how to wear a fucking condom

      Excited to hear how condoms prevent congenital defects.

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        didn’t think of that, thanks. I still think abortion should be illegal but not in these circumstances.

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          Part of the problem with criminalizing abortion is in how it creates large bureaucratic hurdles for doctors to prove they aren’t committing a crime under necessary circumstances.

          Texas law specifically allows for abortions in cases like this, but the state’s AG has threatened to prosecute anyone who performs one, regardless.

          Consequentially, no hospital will perform these “legal” abortions, for fear of a prosecuting convincing a jury it was illegal after all.