• Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]@hexbear.net
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    Yellowstone is a drama western series that follows the Dutton family, who own the largest ranch in the US, and their conflicts with land developers, an Indian reservation, and a national park.

    Just assume it’s Sons of Anarchy for boomers

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      Living the American dream of inheriting a shitload of land your ancestor got given for free by the government after they stole it from the native inhabitants

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        The prequel show 1883 makes this explicit when we see the US military more or less hunting Shoshone people who retaliated against asshole settlers who picked fights with them

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          I’m so out of the loop for a lot of television I thought this show was about people living in the frontier back in the day of what is now Yellowstone national park. Do we really live in the age of decadence that even the national park service is too much government overreach for dumbfuck chuds? Apparently so.

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      How is Sons of Anarchy not Sons of Anarchy for boomer. Whenever I saw it’s the most “dentist on a harley davidson self image dream at nigh” show

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    isn’t this the show where the chinese tourists are like “all this land shouldn’t belong to one person” and the big macho guy is like “yeah, well, this is like america, bro”

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    It’s like a boomer power fantasy show. The whole concept is like “what if your conservative brainworms were always right and your kids had to talk to you and your pickup truck yeoman farmer fantasies made you secretly one of the most powerful people on the planet.”

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    “Conflict leads to better story writing” for the people that have never heard about introspection.

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      CW: talking about animal death

      Just for reference, this entire argument is as incorrect as it is disingenuous. Setting aside that animal agriculture requires far more land to grow crops (and thus more land plowed) to feed the animals before you eat them than just eating the crops, the number of animals killed on roadways is about 100 times higher and the number directly killed for consumption as part of animal agriculture is more like 10,000 times as many.

      Plowing a field is loud and slow, and the actual act of turning over the ground disturbs the ground a lot which can be detected several meters away. Animals are not dumb, most will run away. The majority of animals that would die as a result of plowing a field will be ones escaping that get picked off by birds of prey.

      The biggest human caused problems with plowing that contribute to animal deaths are from starting around the edges of a field and circling your way inward as most small animals will instinctively run into the grass rather than across the wide open already plowed area, in order to avoid those birds of prey. Simply avoiding this pattern or even using no-till planting can further reduce unnecessary animal deaths by providing an escape route.

      Source: my neighbour is a retired agronomy professor

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      How cute does an animal have to be before you care if it dies to feed you?

      Actually, I only buy the cutest puppies at my uncle’s ethical dog farm.

    • This is such an infuriating take. Maybe a monoculture, intensive agricultural method that depletes the soil and requires annual tilling is wrong too, you larping piece of shit. Americans will get hives if the words biodiversity or agroecology are mentioned in their presence, ffs. God forbid farming isn’t done in your fucked up, green revolution way.

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    This is the show that the street fight radio guy would just endlessly talk about when he made guest appearances on other podcasts. I was so bored of hearing him go on multiple shows and literally tell the same stories including the same rants about Yellowstone that I thought I was relistening to one on accident.

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      i both like and hate bryan. he’s just not funny but also kind of a big puppy.

      Guys (his new podcast) kind of sucks though because his co-host is this horrible combo of painfully unfunny, sarcastic, and Canadian. and just the whole show is him bullying bryan in the dorkiest ways

  • i had this weird notion in the first season that the show would be about land conflict between the white rancher, extractive energy capital formations, luxury home developers, BLM, the National Parks Service, Forest Service, and the indigenous tribes because that part of Wyoming has this really contentious history and present where these various interests have repeatedly collided and it could be elucidated in a character driven drama about the people, communities and institutions ensnared by these interests.

    and like sometimes they nibbled around the edges of this, teasing like it would be the big arcs, but it rapidly just became a show about hardcharging pricks trying to big dick each other in and around this toxic power family at the center of it all. in short, it just became every other show i don’t give a shit about only the setting, context, and establishing shots are not Lower Manhattan or West Hollywood or Near North Side, Chicago.

    it sucks harder than it should have, because i believe there’s an untold story there worth bringing to a wider audience.

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    I haven’t seen Yellowstone, but I saw it’s spinoff 1883, which felt generally liberal in its treatment of native people, sympathetic, but doomed. Pretty standard these days, but they make hay about getting actual tribal input on their depiction. Im not qualified to say how well they did. The Duttons were generally open-minded about native people without feeling out of time and place, but the deuteragonists came in the form of Pinkertons, whose worst crimes as a group were left unmentioned. Both of these characters were sorta dicks, but in a way that was useful for their journey. I really appreciated the black Pinkerton, who got to have a lot of agency here in a believable way. This show was surprisingly multicultural, and generally sympathetic, but I felt like it was least friendly to the german (I think Romani?) immigrants in the caravan. Even so, I enjoyed this show. Pretty good as far as westerns go.

    1923, the most recent show in the series, is a shitshow. The show start out with the Dutton patriarch attempting murder on Irish shepherds and almost dying for it, and he’s generally the hyperest of chuds and a raging asshole. Definitely a believable character, but not somebody I could root for. There’s a whole side-story of another Dutton being a big game hunter in Africa, and the show sanitizes this by having him focusing on the rare ones that hunt humans. Later, we get a wealthy villain who makes the Dutton patriarch look like a boy scout by comparison, but his depiction starts to fall into the Game of Thrones trap by focusing way too hard on his sexual proclivities as a sadist. Unlike 1883, the women weren’t given enough to do in this show. I won’t be watching season 2 of this slop.

    And from the spunds of it, Yellowstone is no good either.