• OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Juul was always a scapegoat. They are nothing other vapes aren’t; they were just popular at the wrong time and took the brunt of America’s ridiculous attitude to vaping

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            I feel like a lot of this is insinuation, like “young-looking” models - rather than marketing with old people? Like literally almost all marketing. Look at this:

            that featured young-looking models wearing belly-exposing crop tops, ripped jeans and jean jackets with a bright color scheme.

            What exactly is bad about this unless we assume these models were underage? Which they almost certainly weren’t

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                And you’re not interested in whether they actually did anything, not even enough to respond to my point. I’m not interested in “simping” for them, but I am interested in whether there is any substance to the accusations. That article provided insinuation, not substance.

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                  They clearly weren’t marketing to existing smokers to move away from a harmful product, to something slightly less harmful.

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        Banning flavors was the most effective move to deter kids from vaping JUUL. They all use the gas station disposables now.

        When I was an underage smoker, advertising did nothing to affect my purchase. It was all about access. If they really want to address underage vaping, they need to crack down on places that sell to minors, just as they did with cigarettes.

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          Banning flavors was the most effective move to deter kids from vaping JUUL.

          Just like how we ended underage drinking by banning adults from buying flavored vodka.

          Oh, no, hang on, that flavored poison, though worse, isn’t unpopular.

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      Well they appealed the ban, so they stayed on the shelves.

      It’s actually like the second paragraph of this article.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Food and Drug Administration announced Thursday that it has reversed its ban on Juul e-cigarettes while it reviews new court decisions and considers updated information provided by the vape maker.

    Vaping reached a peak of approximately 28% among all high school students in 2019, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    While Juul has since entered a period of financial retrenchment, sales of e-cigarettes and other alternative nicotine products have continued to grow.

    In a statement, Juul said it appreciated the FDA’s latest decision, adding it now looks forward to “re-engaging with the agency on a science- and evidence-based process to pursue a marketing authorization” for its products.

    “We remain confident in the quality and substance of our applications and believe that a full review of the science and evidence will demonstrate that our products meet the statutory standard of being appropriate for the protection of public health,” the company said.

    Even as Juul has pursued its appeal of the 2022 ban, that initial FDA ruling significantly disrupted the company’s finances, prompting a bailout from two of its largest investors, The Wall Street Journal has reported.


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