Trump winning 2024 isn’t anyone’s fault but the Democratic Party’s.
Not only does our votes not really matter, but it’s hard to even pretend voting can even change anything at this point. The DNC had one job, and that was to win against Trump. And for some God damn reason, they thought Biden was their guy. Our system is a fucking joke.
He won in 2020 because it was a clown show to begin with. If they actually want to do anything worth while, they need to push actual likeable candidates that millennials, zoomers, and marginalized people don’t feel disgusted in voting for.
I know the “just like me frfr” meme exists but like it’s literally a blueprint for a win for them. But instead they wanna try and attract people so old they are gonna die halfway through this next term so it doesn’t even matter. Dems just need to run a young socdem and it’s an easy victory. I don’t know why this is so hard for them.
E: dumb typos because Android’s keyboard is garbo
E2: I didn’t realize this comment got this much traction. Jerboa and crappy mountain Internet isn’t giving me notifications. I tried to read through and do follow up comments but y’all have spot on analyses as usual.
He won in 2020 because it was a clown show to begin with
And to be clear he barely scraped across the finish line in 2020 in what should’ve been a landslide election against one of the least popular presidents in history.
He was also toast before he got the shot in the arm that was all of the other Reagan Democrats dropping out simultaneously except and we were ordered to treat the Jim Clyburn endorsement and SC primary win as if it decided the whole election. Right before all this the man was talking about leaving record players on for kids at night to help them learn, saying he didn’t care about young people’s issues, saying he’d veto M4A, and getting chewed out by his eventual VP pick for being a segregationist.
I’m still convinced that if Trump started selling cloth “Keep America Great” masks on his campaign website or worn one around for a few days he would’ve won.
I’m still convinced that if Trump started selling cloth “Keep America Great” masks on his campaign website or worn one around for a few days he would’ve won
It genuinely annoys me that he didn’t do something like that. It could have been an easy fucking layup to both get a bunch of cash and also not get his hogs killed but he couldn’t even do that. The reactionary nature of the hogs was such that as soon as “the libs” started masking it was all but guaranteed that they were going to cough into each others open mouths
Like I really don’t want to hand it to the guy, especially in a hypothetical, especially because he is an incompetent fascist, and especially because I’m sure we’d have invariably wound up in the same place as we did under Brandon before long because the orphan crushing machine would have eventually been given more orphans to crush regardless of who was president. But there is no doubt in my mind that plenty of hogs would’ve cast their “closely held” beliefs about the nanny state aside in 2020 if the Trump White House even feigned some kind of support for taking better precautions (or just appealing to the racist heart of Amerikkka by framing it as a “protect American patriotism from the elusive China flu!!!”) instead of coming around to side with the plague rats. That’s countless lives that could’ve been saved in the process.
If the Dems still won control of Congress in 2020 I imagine they’d have become the ones reflexively acting to curtail second-term Trump’s attempts to end pandemic aid or the moratoriums, and might’ve even cared about pushing for upgraded ventilation, better testing and tracking infrastructure, remote work policies, and additional stimulus checks. It’d be funny if something good happened in this country as a result, simply because the Dems were actually engaged in harm reduction over the cheeto winning re-election. Instead they just became a new wave of plague rats under their own incompetent fascist.
all Trump had to do was send out that second check in September, but McConnell played him and talked him out of it. convinced him to dangle it like a reward instead
That’s why it’s going to be a self-funded billionaire Democrat with a savior complex who will win cosplaying as a social democrat in 2028. We’ll all get some nice treats and then they’ll die and the Dems will spend the rest of our lives clawing it all back
It can’t be overstated how impactful Bloomberg was in that race. He dumped like half a billion dollars in advertising well before super tuesday on ads that weren’t overtly for him, but with the message that the dems needed a moderate to beat trump. Maybe more important than the Obama phone calls.
You could tell leading up to 2020 that Biden was their guy. I had zero hope of any other outcome after watching the 2016 shitshow. The only reason Bloomburg even showed up was to disrupt potential Bernie talking time. That guy dumped a bunch of money into his “campaign” and when it was a sure shot for Biden, he said “lol cya”.
2016 was probably my commie conversion officially but for some reason I still had hopes for Bernie in 2020.
Trump winning 2024 isn’t anyone’s fault but the Democratic Party’s.
Not only does our votes not really matter, but it’s hard to even pretend voting can even change anything at this point. The DNC had one job, and that was to win against Trump. And for some God damn reason, they thought Biden was their guy. Our system is a fucking joke.
He won in 2020 because it was a clown show to begin with. If they actually want to do anything worth while, they need to push actual likeable candidates that millennials, zoomers, and marginalized people don’t feel disgusted in voting for.
I know the “just like me frfr” meme exists but like it’s literally a blueprint for a win for them. But instead they wanna try and attract people so old they are gonna die halfway through this next term so it doesn’t even matter. Dems just need to run a young socdem and it’s an easy victory. I don’t know why this is so hard for them.
E: dumb typos because Android’s keyboard is garbo
E2: I didn’t realize this comment got this much traction. Jerboa and crappy mountain Internet isn’t giving me notifications. I tried to read through and do follow up comments but y’all have spot on analyses as usual.
And to be clear he barely scraped across the finish line in 2020 in what should’ve been a landslide election against one of the least popular presidents in history.
he was toast before covid
He was also toast before he got the shot in the arm that was all of the other Reagan Democrats dropping out simultaneously except
and we were ordered to treat the Jim Clyburn endorsement and SC primary win as if it decided the whole election. Right before all this the man was talking about leaving record players on for kids at night to help them learn, saying he didn’t care about young people’s issues, saying he’d veto M4A, and getting chewed out by his eventual VP pick for being a segregationist.
I’m still convinced that if Trump started selling cloth “Keep America Great” masks on his campaign website or worn one around for a few days he would’ve won.
It genuinely annoys me that he didn’t do something like that. It could have been an easy fucking layup to both get a bunch of cash and also not get his hogs killed but he couldn’t even do that. The reactionary nature of the hogs was such that as soon as “the libs” started masking it was all but guaranteed that they were going to cough into each others open mouths
Like I really don’t want to hand it to the guy, especially in a hypothetical, especially because he is an incompetent fascist, and especially because I’m sure we’d have invariably wound up in the same place as we did under Brandon before long because the orphan crushing machine would have eventually been given more orphans to crush regardless of who was president. But there is no doubt in my mind that plenty of hogs would’ve cast their “closely held” beliefs about the nanny state aside in 2020 if the Trump White House even feigned some kind of support for taking better precautions (or just appealing to the racist heart of Amerikkka by framing it as a “protect American patriotism from the elusive China flu!!!”) instead of coming around to side with the plague rats. That’s countless lives that could’ve been saved in the process.
If the Dems still won control of Congress in 2020 I imagine they’d have become the ones reflexively acting to curtail second-term Trump’s attempts to end pandemic aid or the moratoriums, and might’ve even cared about pushing for upgraded ventilation, better testing and tracking infrastructure, remote work policies, and additional stimulus checks. It’d be funny if something good happened in this country as a result, simply because the Dems were actually engaged in harm reduction over the cheeto winning re-election. Instead they just became a new wave of plague rats under their own incompetent fascist.
all Trump had to do was send out that second check in September, but McConnell played him and talked him out of it. convinced him to dangle it like a reward instead
meaning Biden, right? (I don’t think Biden would have managed a win without COVID)
exactly
Let’s be really clear - 2020 was the start of a literally biblical level world plague. It goes beyond a clown show. The dems just had to show up.
And he still barely won.
Lol true.
it is against the material interest of the democratic party to hold and wield power
They really are just the GOP’s victory catalyst at this point in our history.
That’s why it’s going to be a self-funded billionaire Democrat with a savior complex who will win cosplaying as a social democrat in 2028. We’ll all get some nice treats and then they’ll die and the Dems will spend the rest of our lives clawing it all back
we’re not getting any treats
Bread and circuses with a strong imperial presidency bordering on Cesar is not an impossible outcome for the American empire
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My least wanted were Bloomberg, Biden, and Harris, in that order. So Bloomberg helped orchestrate the election of the other 2. Fuck the dems so hard
It can’t be overstated how impactful Bloomberg was in that race. He dumped like half a billion dollars in advertising well before super tuesday on ads that weren’t overtly for him, but with the message that the dems needed a moderate to beat trump. Maybe more important than the Obama phone calls.
Lol I just mentioned Bloomberg in another comment. It’s crazy how obvious his role in 2020 was.
You could tell leading up to 2020 that Biden was their guy. I had zero hope of any other outcome after watching the 2016 shitshow. The only reason Bloomburg even showed up was to disrupt potential Bernie talking time. That guy dumped a bunch of money into his “campaign” and when it was a sure shot for Biden, he said “lol cya”.
2016 was probably my commie conversion officially but for some reason I still had hopes for Bernie in 2020.
It seems like there’s a bunch of establishment critters who have been wringing him for Obama-era nostalgia 'till antimatter starts coming out.
I feel like his whole campaign was hinging on Obama nostalgia and his sunglasses “buddy Biden ice cream” memes for sure.
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I miss notifications a good third(?) of the time and I don’t have either of those causes, I think it’s just a lemmy issue
You lose notifications when somebody else replies to the reply, so if your post blows up you might be the last to know.