Fair enough. Thank you for the explanation! I’m not from Australia and I could only dream to have a bill like this in the US.

I’m still trying to figure out why people in this thread are defending much, much higher caps on donations.

Many of the parties I voted for are harmed by letting that limit be so high.

The limits are currently MUCH higher. This bill is serious progress. That’s my point.

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Not this decade

So, no?

I can answer for you. The US betrayal of their Kurdish allies was evil and that was fairly recent.

I don’t believe the bill is doing that, but yes. I’d sacrifice my left nut to get money out of politics.

Can you give an example from, say, the last decade? Just one example will do.

I see, I see. But isn’t everyone in agreement that political campaigns should be publicly funded? What is there to be upset about?

People can’t see how transparently pointless and harmful to the country this whole obsession with “illegals” has become. You don’t need to be a philosopher to see that it’s just plain evil.

It harkens back to the fact that human beings are nothing more than apes. Moral turpitude is on a spectrum, like all malignancies, and while 5% are fully psychopathic, a solid 30% of people are, for all practical purposes, incapable of abstract moral reasoning.

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It occurs to me that your response is identical to that of the evil billionaire Clive Palmer. I think this whole thread might be pure astroturf. I’m out.

There’s no universe in which it makes sense to allow billionaire coal barons to buy elections, for “independent” parties or otherwise. I’m not sure what more there is to discuss.

The legislation is being rushed because it’s desperately needed and moneyed interests are already spreading disinformation to infect Australian politics just like they did in the US. For instance, this very video.

Well, as I said above…

The bill seeks to make it harder for billionaires to buy elections.

• It caps individual donations to $20,000/year
• It forces real time disclosures of donations of $1000 or more.
• It limits campaign spending to $800k/seat and $90 million/party.

It is a fantastic bill that makes it harder for the rich to steal elections. That’s why this literal coal baron (Australia’s Trump) hates the bill:

Yeah, right. Regular Australians harmed by an $800k spending limit. Ridiculous.

She’s being dishonest.

The bill seeks to make it harder for billionaires to buy elections.

• It caps individual donations to $20,000/year
• It forces real time disclosures of donations of $1000 or more.
• It limits campaign spending to $800k/seat and $90 million/party.

It is a fantastic bill that makes it harder for the rich to steal elections. That’s why this literal coal baron (Australia’s Trump) hates the bill:

Yeah, right. Regular Australians harmed by an $800k spending limit. Ridiculous.

You’re delusional. Or maybe a fascist. I’ve no idea.

You don’t think it’s rude for you to be dumb as shit? You think that’s cute or something?

Harris had 73 million votes. Biden had 81 million. The population and consequently the number of democratic voters has also increased by several million.

If you do the very basic arithmetic, there are at least 10 million democratic voters who didn’t turn out in 2024. Hope that helps.

First of all, we had close to 100 million eligible non-voters. “Didn’t vote” is definitely the winner of this election. Secondly, those numbers are from projections and statistics. At least 10 million democrats who should have voted, didn’t.