I’m eager to hear what rule or part of the CoC I was being reported for, or whether it was just for wrongthink.

In full disclosure I asserted that a blanket categorization of Ukrainians as Nazis was racist.

American global presence is still going to take decades to fully wane, unless the process is precipitated all at once in a widely encompassing outbreak of conflict. Beyond a horizon of 2 years into the future, I’m not sure which I prefer either.

Biden has a steadfast commitment to Ukraine’s fight against future generations of Ukrainians.

Absolutely haunting.

If I was going to do an archaeology, I would simply not do it as part of a military detachment.

Super unrealistic; they don’t make phones that wide anymore.

it’s just extending death and destruction in a moment where there’s a real path towards winding it down.

I totally agree: it’s disappointing and ill-advised, but not unprecedented.

On the other hand, by sending American missiles to be fired on another country’s undisputed territory, America accepts that there might be a counter-operation. Do you trust either Biden or Trump to be the adult in the room and accept that if Russia starts using it as justification for attacks on Americans?

If Ansar Allah shot a Russian-made missile at the US (or even at Camp Lemonnier) that would be funny and righteous.

Our hearts turn softy.

They could say anything is a red line. They could say sanctions are a red line, they could say supplying Ukrainians with tanks is a red line. Ultimately they’re going to be fine.

Deploying NATO-member troops into Ukraine to fight directly, or anything else that involves a direct conflict, is an act of war, because that is what is consequential. Arms dealing has been going on since before the SMO started, it’s a difference of degree rather than category. Whining about it is a fuss over no substantial change, and over a type of weapon that is not new to the conflict.

There are chestnut species native to northeast Asia which I suspect are already cultuvated as a prolific food source by the DPRK.

Do they have any secret chestnut cultivars? I want to believe that it’s possible to revive the native Turtle Island chestnut population.

The game of chicken was inherent since January 2022, arguably even before. Ukraine as a state outside of either regional defense treaty and situated in between both has pointed towards increasing involvement/meddling of the regional powers.

A war being in progress involving a country from one bloc is an opening for the other bloc to conduct indirect opposition. This was known from the start of the SMO, and arguably accounted for from the same time too.

A few missiles hitting a depot in Bryansk is not going to change the course of the war. If it was going to, you’d expect that the USA would have encouraged this to be done sooner. It hasn’t broken any continuity woth the rest of the conflict, and isn’t going to change much besides maybe a proportionally tiny amount more of destruction on the Russian side of the border. That was my point.

Ukraine isn’t using it, American personnel are. This is America shooting missiles directly at Russia, qualitatively changing the conflict from a proxy war to a direct war.

Copying this out because you’re known to move the goalposts and ignore anytime it gets pointed out.

Ukrainian military personnel are not firing the missiles? American personnel deployed in Ukraine are? Or are American personnel firing the rockets from a NATO base? Either way, you’re saying that the article and its details are a total fabrication- no “authorization” would need to be given to Ukraine if it were American personnel firing the rockets.

Don’t you have a cave to crawl back to from last year or so, where you can celebrate bloodshed of civilians without contagion?

I’m not supporting the actions of the imperialists, I’m downplaying how important they are and how big of a deal should be made of them.

It would be foolish to believe that weapons transfer was not part of the calculation.

chris domer

Is it Russia v Ukraine and the USA, if the USA is shipping mortars and 7.62 rounds to Ukraine?

There is no “missile nonproliferation treaty” to break, either.

There is a categorical and practical difference between trading or dispensing military aid versus having a military alliance with nukes involved. That difference is what has kept the war from spilling over for 2 years.

The “Nazis are the ones doing the aggression” line was fully accurate up until the country was attacked as a whole, instead of just the separatist-claimed areas. Instead of the Ukrainian far-right doing ethnic cleansing, it was everyone in Ukraine at war. And Russia was well aware of that: the entire SMO and its ramifications revolve around ducking under the bar that NATO was neither being attacked nor doing the attacking.

The Kursk incursion was not surprising, nor was it different in kind, nor was it a bridge too far, nor was it really consequential. Rocket strikes are the same way on all counts.

The proxy war is still fully a proxy war (much less direct than the Korean War was), and Ukraine still has no hope of winning.

If you see a problem with a country being able to respond, in kind, to attacks by a state actor against it, then you do not stand for emancipation or egalitarianism.

(Yes, I know history didn’t start in 2022. There is an undeniable discontinuous shift in the nature of the conflict at that point though.)

Russia has been fully aware of the dynamics of supply between Ukraine and the USA, all along. Nothing has changed besides rockets that can go somewhat farther. If it’s not a nuke and not a military alliance, it doesn’t draw more powers in, it just makes the war more costly.

When one does a special military operation on another country’s undisputed territory, one accepts that there might be a counter-operation.

That is an absolutely bad-faith argument.

In the post-2022 stage of the war, Ukraine are not the aggressors. A blanket categorization of Ukrainians as “nazis” is no better than a blanket categorization of Russians as “orcs”. Sure, the state apparatus is vaguely aligned with NATO and the EU. That doesn’t mean that Ukrainians aren’t defending themselves now to some degree. The imposition of “we are invading and striking your country and you are not allowed to strike us back” is contradictory to the principles of multipolarity.

Afghanistan had the right to strike back at America. Iraq had the right to strike back at America. Ukraine has a qualified right to strike Russian military targets.