General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I… no, no. I don’t, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.
Jup. I saw interviews with muslim Trump voters saying exactly that.
Hassan Abdel Salam, a former professor at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and co-founder of the Abandon Harris campaign, which endorsed Green Party candidate Jill Stein, said Trump’s staffing plans were not surprising, but had proven even more extreme that he had feared.
A professor even. They knew less about the coming administration than my uneducated ass whose not even residing in the country where all that is happening.
He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.
Nope it’s the worst time in history to advise raw milk. Millions of wild life birds and livestock is dying around the world right now because of H5N1. Human cases (allegedly mild) are ramping up already although they don’t know/say if they are human to human transmissions. IIRC the CDC found viral material in raw milk and strongly advised to only drink pasteurized mild.
I’ve seen a documentary about the Jan 6th timeline and one insurrectionist said this in an interview. He couldn’t think anymore and everything about it seemed like the best thing since the invention of toast. He allegedly saw his errors in hindsight. I’m more than convinced he is back in the cult. Can’t fix stupid.
Oh and I know that I derailed any possible discussion about “Plants feel pain” before it ever came up. Because it doesn’t make sense even if it were true as the most number of plants get brutally murdered for a net negative system that if changed would murder a whole lot less of them.
Partially true and I know it but I don’t give a F anymore now the world has a government that’ll only speed up ecological demise. I feel veganism (or at least reducturianism) is a (albeit very small) chance to slow that down. Thanks for giving me the forum to spew my propaganda.
Partly true because you wrote the system is conserving resources where it really doesn’t. Most of the energy is transformed into non-conserving but destructive forces: GHGs, manure run-off, pollution. A whole lot of energy is used to grow the miserable animal and only a fraction of it is coming out in form of quickly perishable food.
I addressed the 2/3 crop calorie argument already in my previous post. That’s not what the original video was addressing. It was addressing the amount of crops (therefore land use, therefore number of rodents dying on harvest). Again your paper states we could ramp up the production of calories from plants just for humans and could feed some billion more people.
Animal ag is fucking up the planet. Deforastation, killing wild-life, pollution, GHGs, destruction of soils via plant mono cultures and water via run offs causing eutrophication and dead-zones, pandemics, eviction of indigenics. Not to speak of the constant suffering. It conserves nothing.
The study you posted states a logical conclusion in the sense of the self preservation our livelihood. See the last quote in my last post.
I understand that peoples jobs depend on it, that 2% vegans aren’t making a big impact and that rich as fuck capitalist pricks can accumulate billions and exploit low-wage workers and even immigrant children because of it.
You’re free to call it misinfo or propaganda but it’s the stuff I researched for 3 years I’m vegan now. Feel free to abstain from answering if you only want to beat a vegan. I probably won’t engage anyway bc it was all I have to say about it.
Nope. I’m not shifting anything. You were by changing the subject from crops to crop calories without taking into account humans can grow calorie dense foods on relatively small space opposed to animal feed which needs a lot crops, land and produces a lot of plant waste and in addition is inefficient because only a fraction of calories come out of the slaughtered being compared to the initial calories in plants.
All that while we cull millions of feeling beings in the worst possible way right now because of H5N1 (add that to the polycrisis) waste enormous amounts of resources for little protein and calories and destroy nature.
Here have a look at some frail vegans, while the world burns, mate:
And he’ll probably put into effect the insurrection act.
The paper is from 2013. The number of animals in factory farming were ramped up since then.
Then: She says crops not crop calories.
“From the 41 crops analyzed in this study, 9.46 × 1015 calories available in plant form are produced by crops globally, of which 55% directly feed humans. However, 36% of these produced calories go to animal feed, of which 89% is lost, such that only 4% of crop-produced calories are available to humans in the form of animal products. Another 9% of crop-produced calories are used for industrial uses and biofuels[…]”
55% + 9% = 64% = 2/3
So you’re correct with the 2/3 crop calories(!) if we count the 9% biofuel/industrial stuff with it.
But why is the following?
“According to a 2011 analysis, 75% of all agricultural land (including crop and pasture land) is dedicated to animal production.”
I’d suppose it’s because of this reasons: A. Pastures need a lot of space which for which often woods or rainforest are burned and biomes are destroyed. B. Probably the most eaten vegetable (potatoe) is very energy dense and has a lot less waste by-product and therefore needs a lot less space than animal feed like soy, wheat or corn.
This is everything I need to know from your paper to say that the system of animal agriculture is fucked, wasteful and destroys nature and our health (not only because of the pandemics it causes):
“Put another way, shifting the crops used for feed and other uses towards direct human food consumption could increase calories in the food system by 3.89 × 1015 calories, from 5.57 × 1015 to 9.46 × 1015 calories, or a ∼70% increase. A quadrillion (1 × 1015) food calories is enough to feed just over 1 billion people a 2700 calories per day diet for a year (which is 985 500 calories per year) [1]. Therefore, shifting the crop calories used for feed and other uses to direct human consumption could potentially feed an additional ∼4 billion people.”
Pastures can be regenerated, btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/farming/comments/1ds3fvh/how_to_turn_pasture_into_a_garden/
Edit: The latter is what the “Vegan Land Movement” is doing very successfully by rewilding pastures to wild lands again where a wide variety of wild life is finding a refugium now.
You had me in the first part!
I’ve seen a young women very stressed out talking in a video-tweet (originally from TikTok) about how a hacker-friend who works in IT security told her how the starlink satellites communicate with Linux servers which per se can’t “split the signal” and therefore could not correctly count the vote. I could have stopped the video there. If that’s Kathleen either her “friend” deliberately misinformed her or she is a grifter.
Than the pretty sure straight up fabricated lies about controlled crashes.
Also the fishy af Joe Rogan telling his bros about how Elmo created an app to get the election results beforehand was either a troll by Mask or Rogan not getting that the polls just concluded that Traitor in Chief couldn’t lose anymore.
OTOH I’ve seen a believable video-tweet from a mid 30 very american looking and speaking women in a very american looking home with a kid in the background who shouted something very adorable to her.
She talked about that she was requesting the status of her mail-in ballot from the election office and that it wasn’t set to counted and/or that they couldn’t find it, I don’t remember exactly. She seemed very authentic.
Of course. From now on I’ll only link screenshots of tweets. I’m already downloading videos from there. Thanks for the hint.
Fediverse is hardly keeping up. It’s already a trend. That’s why I’m still on X (and I hate to do that), where all of it is shown in realtime. There are already elementary school boys spouting that stuff to their female classmates. Read a tweet from a teacher who cheered a girl that snapped and knocked a boy out after he said it.
Dr. Sleep, the sequel to “The Shining” was a very apt adaption, too.
And don’t trust Kings own approval of the Dark Tower movie although Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey were actually good casts. It’s was bad nonetheless. We could have had an 10 seasons series on par with Game of Thrones if it wasn’t for that movie.