You are maliciously attacking a largely queer community with accusations of sexual deviancy in a way that has been historically used to demean queer folk in general. You are hyper focused on that sexual aspect to the point that you believe it to be all they are to the extent to claim asexual furries compromise their sexuality in the face of the pure sexyness of the furry community. I am not willfully misinterpreting you. I am interpreting you through a lense that you find unfavorable.

You know what they say about personal experiences pertaining to a group. It’s 100% translatable to the entire group. Yup. That’s what they say. Even so far to remove the asexual from a furry because I guess being a furry is so sexual that it must trump sexuality.

Wild take. Bonkers even.

So you have never talked to a furry and you are just throwing wild weird sexual fantasies you made up at them? And you are confused why I am saying you have weird sexual fantasies about furries? My brother in Christ, you made up a sexual fantasy about furries and now your horny posting on main about how weird they are.

Your rephrase is a double down on your own absolute inability to tell fact from fiction. Stop being weird dude. Make a furry friend and talk to a human being Bout this shit rather than just letting your sexual fantasies about them go wild

I’m not saying this is a great way to go about change. I’m saying the Dems lost because they refused to change. You can’t shame a wife vosing populace into changing, nor does fighting about it do anything. Blaming the Dems at this point is the only action that moves forward. Everything else is a waste of time and effort. Dems as in dem establishment not voters.

I know multiple furries personally who are asexual. You are speaking out your ass and fetishizing furries out of your own sexual repression.

Yeah! You know what else is weird? You. For picking out a tiny subset of an already tiny community and picking on it like it is at all the norm. I can rip out a million tiny subgroups of groups and say “group” is and always will be weird because of “insert small subgroup here”.

It’s like people who say “I don’t like abortion because it shouldn’t be used as a birth control” like bokay, no one was doing that. Why are you fucking mentioning it?

And I’m saying it’s ultimately the responsibility of the party to earn votes, and they gambled on what you just said and lost. The party is ultimately the one to blame and focus on. Saying what your saying is a continued juicing of a failed campaign strategy post campaign. Do you get how that’s frustrating?

Like, we are over here talking about the future and what to change, you are tossing blame incorrectly into the past out of anger instead of taking that anger and moving it somewhere it could be productive.

Now we got MSNBC hosts out here praising trump. I got libs here on Lemmy excited for mass deportation because they imagine there’s a conservative who deserves it. How can you not blame the Democrats for being Diet republican and losing and then blaming queer folk for “wokifying” their party, preemptively throwing them under the bus?

DNC couldn’t promise not to assist a genocide. Is that not crazy to you? Does the fact leftists didn’t vote really come higher on your “that’s crazy” meter than both parties being pro genocide just differing on degrees of genocide? No self reflection about that?

Covid. Do you want me to elaborate?

I felt against it when writing it and I appreciate you being the voice to back me off the angry ledge. I will remove it.

Assuming things is bad for conversation like this so let me be clear that I voted Kamala

So take all your insults and pack it back up and try again. My argument is that it is ultimately kamalas fault for not giving the left anything to vote for. I wish we could have lesser eviled here but ultimately it’s the Dems fault for choosing to be a little evil when they could of easily of chosen no evil and won.

I blame the organization and organizers of the campaign for thinking they could gamble on this by remaining pro genocide and failing.

I blame the organization who was told clearer than any election that people will not vote for them on this one issue, concede or lose, and they as the decision makers chose lose

So you wanna argue with leftists instead of working together against the incoming Adderall Concentration Camps? Rather than focusing on changing the Democrat party to be ready next time you would rather blame and fight the most politically disenfranchised group in America? Okay bro. Do you get the weird priorities you are displaying?

Your candidate couldn’t promise to stop sending weapons to an active genocide. That one thing to you would of won her the election and you still don’t blame her for not doing it? Crazy logic. Guess you too really wanted to continue that genocide. Taking it off the table isn’t even an option to you.

I am being rhetorical. Of course you probably don’t support the continued genocide of the Gazan people. But the democrats inability to give it up themselves lost the election. And you wanna be mad at random online leftists instead of that. It feels like you haven’t really considered what happened and more are just angry and lashing out. Take care of yourself friend and think about who lost this election and why.

Except it didn’t work. Polled the entire American population and was found that it don’t work. Would you like to try that again next election or do something different this time? Cause right now you seem like you reeeeeeally wanna try the same thing again next time. Hell, throw some extra bacon on the grill. You gonna sacrifice trans people next? Gay marriage? Cmon bubby. What’s the next sacrifice and I am curious when you pick one that includes you

Exactly. When every national poll shows things like trans rights are more nationally popular, because they want to chase the republican vote so bad than to concede anything to their leftist base.

And heres the thing. In the moment, I can wish we could make that “lesser evil” choice. It sucks, but i voted kamela myself. But now that it has failed, you would rather blame the people who couldn’t bring themselves to make that difficult decision instead of the campaign for not being fucking evil, even if lesser. Like, do you get where my frustration comes from? I’m on here arguing with a liberal about how its actually the fault of random leftists and people unable to make that impossible decision when we both acknowledge the campaign actively ran on “I’m still gonna do a genocide, cant stop me” and you think thats just cool?

Once again, mid vote I can get your stance. But it didnt work! What are you doing now? What are you hoping to gain by swinging on people like me who are just BEGGING YOU to support a democratic party that’ll say “no evil” next time instead of “Wittle bit of evil”. Seriously? Are you just pissed beyond any actual care for the people who are about to be targeted by this regime? You wouldn’t rather talk with people like me on ways to resist and damage the ability for this regime to do the evil we both hate?

Once again. I can get your frustration, but from my perspective you are still trying to juice a campaign strategy that failed. It didnt work. Lesser evil DID NOT WORK. WHY DO YOU KEEP WANTING TO DEFEND SOMETHING THAT DIDNT DO THE ONE THING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. WHY DONT YOU WANNA TRY SOMETHING NEW?!?!

Well, add another layer of complexity. The lesser of two evil guy wants to be picked. But instead of offering anything, he really wants to kill one of your parents and banks on your choice. He could of guaranteed getting picked by saying he’d kill none of your parents. But he does wanna kill one of them and gambled on you picking the lesser evil.

Didn’t happen, and you think it’s somehow the person making the impossible choice wrongly than the ones making the choices.

Thank you for your time.

Exactly. It sounds rhetorical, silly and a stupid straw man of sorts. But that’s because people don’t understand there were people who had to actually make such decisions.

I agree, I voted Kamala Harris and I do wish we could all bite that bullet but I understand that failure to do so is on the campaign who made a gamble that they could never lose voters in a lesser evil campaign. They were wrong. Instead of criticizing that campaign many here want to fight the same people they claim to want to protect. They are turning on immigrants, Muslims, and queer folk and throwing blame at the people they themselves believe they need to win.

I would say “funny strategy” but there is no strategy here. It’s online liberals who don’t understand what happened and are upset and angry. They just came out of a campaign in which they spent so much of their time justifying the lesser of two evils that they can’t even acknowledge that it didn’t work and it’s the campaigns fault.

My hope is maybe they can stop arguing with us before the concentration camps come up.

Out of curiosity, what wouldn’t you be willing to compromise on? If I had a party wanting to kill your mom and dad and another who just wants to kill your dad, would you make that compromise?