We don’t know.

The US came back from a US president hiring private goons to spy on his political opponents.

The US came back from a US president illegally selling weapons to Iran to fund right wing militias in South America.

The US came back from a US cabinet member taking literal bribes from oil companies to give them oil drilling rights on federal land.

The US came back from a US president illegally firing a cabinet member and installing his own lackey.

But it didn’t HAVE to.

I don’t think there’s really such a thing as a ‘point of no return’ for a Democracy. But it is possible to get to a point after which you don’t return.

None of the news you read on this app matters. This is at least an interesting tidbit.

It’s a plurality and not a majority, pretty far from a mandate. It’s a legal win.

They did have a primary.

And Hillary won her primary popular vote against Bernie and you’re still pissed about it so seems like the method isn’t the problem for you, it’s that they (“they” being Democrats according to the party rules) don’t pick whoever you like.

1.7% in 2024.
1.9% in 2020.
5.7% in 2016.
1.7% in 2012.
1.4% in 2008.

2024 is not the outlier. It’s mostly about how well the other major party candidate does.

It is not actually legal to do this. A state can’t interfere with the functioning of the federal executive branch. Most constitutional scholars would say the sentence just gets suspended until the end of his term.

Her “suspension” while keeping all the infrastructure was obviously just to avoid election backlash for House Democrats. It’s coming back. Was always the plan.

Everything’s a goddamn coup with these people.

Scheduling legislative leadership elections at an allowed time is a coup against a guy who is currently not in office?

K.

That sounds right to me but is both a little hopeless (I guess we’ll just flip flop the presidency term-to-term forever?) and disagreeing with the premise of “pro-corporatism” from the OP.

Sorry who is saying this? The judge making the ruling?

I have him in a PPR league and my opponent rage benched all his players haha.

Weird question, were there any elections in between those years? If so, why did they get left out?

Either Joe Biden wasn’t “pro-corporate” or there was some other similarity to the 2016 and 2024 candidates that fits better…

There are no numbers that say being less moderate would have won the election for Harris.

“Voters who voted for the winner got what they wanted” uh-huh…

A couple guys tried that during the campaign IIRC.

Every interest group in the Democratic party after a loss: “See? It’s because [Candidate] didn’t agree with ME enough!”

Maybe if they did your idea the loss would have been worse.

Weird you didn’t post this before the election results came in, since it was so obvious.

I have deep sources telling me he got more votes.

Assuming…you know…Biden will lose his record for oldest president ever and the gerontocracy continues.

Gotta think 2029 brings the biggest drop in age for a long time, JFK was 26 years younger than Eisenhower. We could beat it with a 56 year old in 2029. Vance would break that record if by election or…you know…but I think Whitmer would be 56 exactly. Wes Moore, Buttigieg, Josh Shapiro would all break it.

Literally every former president says “promises made, promises kept.”