And that’s what many of us are tired of. This stupid noble sentiment where we jerk each other off about how we lost the right way, the honorable way. Because it just ignores pragmatic strategy and the fact that we lost. And when we lose, how does that help anyone? Congrats, SCOTUS stacked for generations.

The reality is we have a FPTP voting system. In such a system, two party control is all but guaranteed mathematically. It looks binary because IT IS BINARY.

Are you claiming the spoiler effect doesn’t exist?

You’ve just described the gender argument.

Shuddap you privileged rapist, I’m telling the bears!

Opera is also Chromium but they said they are not going to do what Chrome is. So there must still be some flexibility.

Dean Winchester killed Hitler.

Fair point, what kind of voting system do you guys have? Really wish we had ranked choice.

Because people are tribalistic and paint with a very wide brush. And we have a FPTP two party system. So like it or not, liberal, left, feminist, etc memes all get lumped together. It’s up to us to reign in the crazy on our own side lest we look crazy by proxy. Or replace crazy with venom, or whatever you want to call it that is making young men feel more welcome on right.

It’s like that line from the Newsroom. “You know why people hate liberals? Because you lose. If liberals are so smart how come they lose so god damned always?”

I’m on the left and I’m tired of getting my ass kicked because my own party has no strategic or tactical sense, and no unity to rally us. Just infighting and giving the right easy wins and plentiful sticks to beat us with.

No it won’t. That’s not the point though. You talk as if humans are wholly rational. All I’m pointing out is the left are masters of shooting themselves in the foot with how they message and present themselves.

You catch more flies with honey and all that.

Everything you said is true. And will not get you victory. That’s my point. Uncomfortable truths aren’t going to get votes. Hope does.

The right may be liars but their message is essentially pining for better times past.

I am pointing out the uncomfortable truth that we are losing young men to the right, and you guys just down vote instead of face the truth. Hypocrisy.

Lol, the mirror of which is, “I can’t believe people I insult didn’t support my cause!”

Like what’s the win for you guys, to get someone who would have voted with you to be demotivated enough to stay home? And if so, isn’t that just the same childish attitude?

However, young white men are skewing right. Because the only thing the left says to them is they are privileged pieces of shit that are useless rapists that are trusted less than bears. Winning strategy.

The higher dimensional abstractum of the electron emanates through the multiverse. Electron is.

What is a tanky? Only heard that after switching to Lemmy. What’s the origin?

Edit: God damn, definition was far more literal than I imagined!

I saw one IRL omw home and I burst out laughing at how stupid it looked. Didn’t stop laughing till I got home.

Ohhhh, right, equating gay and effeminate. That would explain it being 20 years ago. Reminds me of old highschool days. I’m getting old!

Don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone dissing anyone over this. Sitting is objectively cleaner; micro droplets.

You are aiming too high. Simply getting people to vote is already a lot because our general election turnout is shameful. Beyond that, primary voting turnout is like abysmal, I think 10% or so last I checked.

Getting primary election turnout up will make the biggest difference in party attitude for the least effort expended.

Being nit picky and pedantic will just get people to grumble and move on to other things.

Be short, to the point, and make the effort you are asking for to be so negligible that people will feel compelled to do that much.

Otherwise you just defeat your own causes by introducing friction that bleeds momentum and energy. Pessimism isn’t effective at galvanizing the left. The left thrives on optimism.

There was a point in time where Firefox had the most market share? When was this?