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So because their blurb is anti-establishment-inclined, we’re meant to blindly trust it? What about in 2016 where they willingly gave up user’s information because the FBI asked nicely? That doesn’t sound like a very secure service to my ears. In fact, it paints a certain picture that Riseup isn’t a no-logs service.
The reason we value a no-logs service so highly is because without logs, a service couldn’t snitch on a user even if they wanted to, even if the person(s) behind the company had ethical issues with what one of their users was doing with their service and decided they don’t meet the criteria of people who should have access to privacy while using the internet. A no-logs policy allows for an agnostic service. The inherent risk of true privacy on the internet is that someone is going to use it to break the law but does that mean a singular person or entity should have the right to decide whether that person is entitled to privacy? To me, that sounds a lot like the antithesis of what Riseup’s goal is. Are you going to keep advertising them knowing that?
liliumstar explained why free VPNs aren’t a recommended option, not that they had any personal preference either towards or against Riseup but it’s clear you just read what you want to read, whether any of those words are there or not.
It’s also clear that your little advertisement… or war march isn’t being received well here. You can take that as some sense of misplaced pride if you want - as said above, you’ve made it obvious you read what you want - but any of us who know enough about VPNs to know how to identify a good one are also aware we can self-host one (for free) if we wish to and make the choice to pay for a service because we’ve identified the flaws of a free service.
It’s okay if you want to be some advertiser’s statistic that is also your choice and what I expect from the average internet user. The rest of us ‘idiots’ will keep paying for a service we know we can trust instead of giving our private information to a company that has made it obvious they can’t be trusted.