I’m not sure how I made it “nobody’s fault”. It’s the corporation’s fault for low wages, and the government’s fault for allowing them to do that.
You’re right that they have no incentive to change on their own. And if every business is doing it, it’s not realistic to tell consumers to just stop going to every business.
You realize you’re turning against consumers in the same economic class instead of turning on the people actually creating the problem.
Actually, they’re saying boycott those businesses instead of supporting them, so that maybe actual change can happen. Those business owners only care about their bottom line, it’s just that the people with the power to actually effect that bottom line instead say “here’s a tip, get a better job” to the lowest person on the ladder.
But the other person has a point. It’s every business nowadays trying to subsidize employee wages with tips. So as a customer we’re not supposed to go anywhere? How is that possible? I’ll not cross the picket line, but I also need to buy food and groceries and live my life.
Idk about you, but I haven’t been asked to tip at my grocery store one time. I also shop at one that does cost a bit more but also does pay a bit more than other local competitors. You could always cook at home.
I also do tip food service on the rare occasion I patronize the business, which is another way. While you’re still supporting the scummy business you don’t also have to feel high and mighty about not tipping the exploited worker while doing so, you can just tip them instead.
And if every business is doing it, it’s not realistic to tell consumers to just stop going to every business.
I don’t know how you can say “boycott those businesses” with a straight face when asking for tips has become so pervasive in every customer-facing industry.
Idk where you live, maybe it’s different there, but where I am this is an absurd hyperbole. Never have I ever been asked to tip at the grocery store, for instance, nor at fast food places like mcdonalds and wendys that specifically forbid their employees from taking tips, nor megastores like Target, Walmart, etc, nor at local shops which tbh are almost all replaced by corporations around here anyway (hate it but I guess the people have spoken). Sure, restaurants, ice cream stands, coffee shops; y’know the places that have been customary to tip since like, what, the last 100 years? Yeah, they still ask for tips.
I will concede there is one unusual place asking for tips I’ve seen in my area, a thrift store, but they also pay fairly, it just so happens that they didn’t design the android-tablet-POS-OS that they use and the people that did design it included a tip screen. Do I think the devs should make that optional, or make it able to be changed to donations instead of tips? Sure, but unfortunately they seem to have neglected that and afaik it’s closed source, so unless they update it we’re stuck with it.
I’m not sure how I made it “nobody’s fault”. It’s the corporation’s fault for low wages, and the government’s fault for allowing them to do that.
You’re right that they have no incentive to change on their own. And if every business is doing it, it’s not realistic to tell consumers to just stop going to every business.
You realize you’re turning against consumers in the same economic class instead of turning on the people actually creating the problem.
Actually, they’re saying boycott those businesses instead of supporting them, so that maybe actual change can happen. Those business owners only care about their bottom line, it’s just that the people with the power to actually effect that bottom line instead say “here’s a tip, get a better job” to the lowest person on the ladder.
But the other person has a point. It’s every business nowadays trying to subsidize employee wages with tips. So as a customer we’re not supposed to go anywhere? How is that possible? I’ll not cross the picket line, but I also need to buy food and groceries and live my life.
Idk about you, but I haven’t been asked to tip at my grocery store one time. I also shop at one that does cost a bit more but also does pay a bit more than other local competitors. You could always cook at home.
I also do tip food service on the rare occasion I patronize the business, which is another way. While you’re still supporting the scummy business you don’t also have to feel high and mighty about not tipping the exploited worker while doing so, you can just tip them instead.
I don’t know how you can say “boycott those businesses” with a straight face when asking for tips has become so pervasive in every customer-facing industry.
Idk where you live, maybe it’s different there, but where I am this is an absurd hyperbole. Never have I ever been asked to tip at the grocery store, for instance, nor at fast food places like mcdonalds and wendys that specifically forbid their employees from taking tips, nor megastores like Target, Walmart, etc, nor at local shops which tbh are almost all replaced by corporations around here anyway (hate it but I guess the people have spoken). Sure, restaurants, ice cream stands, coffee shops; y’know the places that have been customary to tip since like, what, the last 100 years? Yeah, they still ask for tips.
I will concede there is one unusual place asking for tips I’ve seen in my area, a thrift store, but they also pay fairly, it just so happens that they didn’t design the android-tablet-POS-OS that they use and the people that did design it included a tip screen. Do I think the devs should make that optional, or make it able to be changed to donations instead of tips? Sure, but unfortunately they seem to have neglected that and afaik it’s closed source, so unless they update it we’re stuck with it.