• Juice [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    9 months ago

    Importantly, this estimation assumes other factors associated with earning potential — for instance, gender, age, years of schooling, and location — are held equal.

    See, the gender/pay gap is a myth! It’s a height/pay gap!

    Academia is a fucking joke

      • Juice [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        What does it mean that the other factors are held equal? If difference is negated doesn’t that skew the results? I guess I don’t understand the study

        • Babs [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          9·
          9 months ago

          You want to study the effect of a certain trait on a group. So you take two groups and try to make them as even as possible, aside from the trait you are testing. Ideally you’d match every guy in your sample with someone who is mostly identical in upbringing, location, etc, but taller. That’s how you make sure it’s actually height causing the effect and not something else. If you don’t account for this, you might end up with a bunch of bourgeois short kings getting compared to 6 foot tall poor people, and might even come the conclusion that height has a negative correlation with wealth.

          It’s not saying “height matters, not those other things.” But rather “height is one of those things that effect socioeconomic status, statistically.”

          • Juice [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            I don’t get how making sexual difference equal does anything other than make sexual difference disappear. When half the population is shorter because of sexual difference, and also paid less due to structural discrimination on the basis of gender/sex, making those differences equal makes the actual causes disappear. I just don’t get it. I have no background in labs or experimentation so sorry if I’m being dense.

            Marx flattens some differences in order to illustrate class distinctions and disappear certain confusing elements before working them in later, but he explains why and how, and what effect this will have.

            But how would you do this with sex, when the thing you are measuring, height and pay, are both directly related, either physiologically or socially? I couldn’t find the link to the study or more info, and the fact this is in Forbes makes my hitler-detector register a beep

            • LeninWeave [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              The purpose is to measure the effect of a single variable, so you make sure to correct for all other variables. For example, to measure the effect of height you might compare white men only against white men, black women only against black women, etc.

              In a study measuring the gender pay gap, they would be correcting for variables other than gender.

              • Juice [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                Is that what “this estimation assumes other factors associated with earning potential — for instance, gender, age, years of schooling, and location — are held equal,” means? Cuz that’s not what it sounds like. Assuming things are equal isn’t this statistical matching thing you are talking about

                Edit: I found the study so I’m trying to figure out how these other factors are controlled for.