• MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works
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    10 个月前

    If you’re making selections based on diversity, you’re fundamentally not focusing on hiring the best of the best. And for safety critical positions like pilots, I would much rather have the focus be 100% on quality.

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      If you’re making selections based on diversity, you’re fundamentally not focusing on hiring the best of the best.

      Are there no women and people of color in the best of the best?

      I mean, get what you’re trying to say, but you’re making unwarranted assumptions about the demographics of the cream of the crop. So, I’m trying to get you to either realize you’re doing that and retract basically everything you’ve said so far, or to keep exploring what you think the best look like and why DEI is antithetical to picking people those meritorious looking people.

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        10 个月前

        The best is the best, regardless of whatever bs diversity qualities. You’ll get them without having to specifically look for shit like race and sex. Looking for those instead means you’re no longer looking for the best, you’re looking for whoever meets minimum standards and is also an acceptable race

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          If demographics don’t matter, then what exactly is wrong with preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best? (You still haven’t said whether there are women and people of color in the best of the best or not…so let’s assume there are.)

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            preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best

            All races are acceptable. You do know race is just a social construct right?

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            Because the moment you’re preferring race, you’re fundamentally not preferring something else, and if you ask me, race is pretty much the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on.

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              I said, let’s assume that the best of the best is diverse in demographics.

              You’re saying that race preferences necessarily exclude other preferences. But what is not being excluded is whether any given person is the best of the best by our assumption.

              So, sure, race can be the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on, but that’s inconsequential. We’re still highly qualified candidates.

              It seems like I’m missing something: what other preferences should take precedence over race, then? We’re already at the top of the top, the most whipped of the whipped cream. What other preferences might you prefer to take precedence over race at this level?

              Or are you saying something else entirely?

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                But what is not being excluded is whether any given person is the best of the best by our assumption.

                I mean if you want to work from a false premise, there’s no point in further having this discussion

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                  I literally asked you to correct me.

                  there’s no point in further having this discussion

                  That’s where I’m at, too. Thx for the argument.

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                    I literally asked you to correct me.

                    I did. Multiple fucking times. But it didn’t fit whatever stupid strawman you wanted, so you just ignored it and acted stupid. Or more realistically, it wasn’t an act