• Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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    10 months ago

    Well even if we banned guns. Criminals wouldn’t give them up. We’d just disarm lawful owners.

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      10 months ago

      This isn’t a good argument. Criminals get guns through lawful processes. They buy guns directly from gun shops, or they buy them at gun shows, or they buy them from private sellers, all of which are legal methods of buying guns. There is of course a black market for guns, but if you’re too stupid to acquire a gun legally, you’re probably going to fall for the obvious FBI sting operation that calls itself Black Market Firearms dot com. I’m not linking it here, in the off chance that it really is an online retailler of explicitly illegal firearms and ammunition.

      The point is, most gun control legislation is aimed at the methods criminals use to obtain guns. Restrictions on straw purchases, requirements for background checks at gun shows and for private sales, requirements to report lost or stolen guns, these are all reasonable restrictions that don’t take guns away from lawful owners.

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        10 months ago

        Go to the website. What do you think is illegal ? I didn’t see anything illegal

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          10 months ago

          I don’t know if we’re on the same website. The first result from my search for “black market firearms” gave me a website that says “we sell illegal firearms and ship them to you.” So, I’m guessing when you give them money and an address, they keep the money and give the address to the ATF.

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            10 months ago

            There are oddly several places called that. The one you listed appears to be a legit website. The armory ones appears to be fake

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                10 months ago

                It is not selling anything illegal.

                The armory one is selling goes using bitcoin, anywhere in the world and without a transfer. That is a satire or something site. The first one appears to be legit. It is tied make to a business in Missouri and I didn’t see anything illegal on it.

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                  10 months ago

                  Literally the first line at the top of thr website.

                  Welcome to Black Market Firearms, your one-stop shop for all your illegal firearms and ammunition needs.

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                    10 months ago

                    I do not see that on the top of the website. You said black market firearms dot com.

                    that takes you to blacklabelaromory

                    Black Market Firearms Small Arms Aficionados & Purveyors of Premium Parts. Formerly known as; “Black Label Armory, LLC.”

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      10 months ago

      It’s crazy how the criminals in Europe tend not to use guns anywhere near as much as the U.S.

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        That’s is one of the dumbest things you’ve said which is hard to top. My hats off to you.

        Do you think victims care if they were stabbed to death or shot to death? Or if they were beat to death ?

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          10 months ago

          You dumb fucks will do and say anything to avoid addressing the gun issue.

          Maybe don’t ignore the fact that there are way more homicides in the U.S. than in Europe next time. And for those of us with half a brain, it isn’t hard to recognize that guns are in large part responsible for that.