Every day I feel getting closer and closer to adventure-time Liberals don’t want real liberation for palestine. They have a fetish for defeat. I literally cannot have half a conversation with anyone above the age of 30 without racist chauvinism or hearing them justify imperialism.

  • voight [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    “There is a lid on the western mainstream media in a way it has NEVER been before… ‘Today there is no “crack in the wall”…’ 10% is empirically true, 20% is fake - narratives, 70%, and it is the most important part, is omitted news.” Jan Oberg (17 August 2021)

    That 70% includes the difference between indiscriminate attacks on shipping and the targeted blockade of Israel. He probably doesn’t even know Ansar Allah is in de facto control of Yemen. He probably won’t give a shit anyways.

    • CommieGabredabok [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      I love that quote, never seen it before.

      My father and I were actually arguing for over two and a half hours straight. As you can expect, with him lazily going through narratives from the NED, Amnesty International, “human nature,” and “authoritarianism.” All the while blaming Russians for Amerika’s racism, praising the democratic establishment, and defending the first gulf war. We hung up after he conceded on the gulf war.

      I don’t think their is a single family member of mine (other than like, my cousin) that doesn’t deserve the wall.

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        Family can be frustrating as hell. My own dad seems to expect there will be some point where everyone just realizes they need to “stop being greedy” – with nothing precipitating that. He hates the idea that systemic changes will have to precede mass behavioral changes. He’ll concede that China is getting results, but believes that it’s going about it the wrong way and is thus no better than the US.

        However, people don’t deserve “walls” simply for regurgitating what’s in their media environment. My dad and your dad may say some silly things – that’s unfortunate, but not surprising given the circumstances. What matters is how they act, how they treat people day to day.

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      quote predates the Ukraine crisis of 2022 as well, in which the western media wall was shored up even tighter. Now it’s 5% empirically true things, 45% fake narratives and 50% omitted news and the omitted news is also censored and illegal in your country.