• undeffeined@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Im gonna ask you. What exactly is the problem with that?

    One example of a problem is the fact that the majority of them do not openly talk about it. In fact it’s the opposite, they deny taking PEDs and claim it’s all hard work and that anybody can achieve it.

    A more specific example is Chris Hemsworth who sells training programs that claim to give you his physique. Don’t you see the problem with this?

    I do agree with you that it if people want to use it they should, under medical supervision and with full understanding of the risks and commitment they bring. My limited understanding of using exogenous hormones is that your body will lose the ability to properly make them and one is bound to taking them for life.

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      11 months ago

      I see a problem with people lying about it, especially if they are profiting off the lie or using it to gain an unfair advantage in sports. The fact that they are illegal and you have to get them underground exacerbates the problem. Its not on your medical history, theres no official records of you being on them so you can lie.

      The issue I have is theres a social distain towards steroids that seems unfair when compared to all the other things I listed. I’m not ashamed to tell you that I’m not on steroids, but only because I dont have reliable access to them. Because they are extremely illegal in Australia and because we are an island nation hard to smuggle in and therefore HORRIBLY expensive. If I could have my doctor manage a sensibly dosed regime, Id start tomorrow and I wouldnt lie for a second about it.

      You’re half right about the hormones, you experience supression when coming off a cycle thats pretty much directly proportional to your dosage and duration when on steroids. Which is why Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is a must, suplements that help rebalance your hormones and bring testosterone production back up.

      The problem with them being illicit and distained is that theres nothing stopping people from just setting their own insane dosages, running terrible stacks (multiple different drugs/compounds), not doing adequate PCT and generally making up their own rules, leading to bad outcomes.

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        11 months ago

        I agree with you that the stigma around them is not a net positive. Adults should be able to use tools available, in a safe way and if they don’t harm others in the process. Legalizing their use would also minimize problems from illegal trade.

        Thanks for the info on the PCT, was not aware. The examples I read were extreme, were the person had been using for years and in high doses so they were effectively dependent on them.

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      11 months ago

      Is there anybody who looks just as good & big as say Hemsworth but who has a third party publicly release medical/drug tests? (So, any massive but proven clean dudes out there?)

      Hard to believe EVERY giant is taking big risks with drugs!