Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses.  As the first post in the series discusses, the "free fediverses" are regions of the fediverse that reject Meta and surveillance capitalism, and these strategies position the free fediverses as an alternative to Threads and "Meta's fediverses". Join the discussion in the

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/7477620

Transitive defederation – defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads – isn’t likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing – although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I’ve also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion – and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    132·
    11 months ago

    Meta disgusts me but i cant lie and say the opportunity that my family may without me pushing much may join the fediverse on threads sounds much nicer then the status quo.

    I am all for protecting the fediverse from metas ideas so i do support defediration.

    With this transistive tool what happens if i am on my own instance, defederated from meta but i dont the transition and federate with a community that is federated with meta.

    Could i see threads from my instance trough the federated one?

    Is my own instance safe from meta?

    Will transistive defederation mean others will automatically defederate with my instance because i federate with an instance that is federated with threads?

    • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
      61·
      11 months ago

      Man just gotta respond to one thing here. I’m not for protecting anyone from any ideas. Better to have an immune system than a sterile environment that requires isolation to maintain.

      • capital@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        Lack of isolation online played a big part in my deconverting from Christianity.

        These goobers on Mastodon content warning a fucking dog looking at you or, heaven forbid, a plate of food, cracks me up.

        How do they function day to day? Grow up.

                  • capital@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    11 months ago

                    Jesus you’re annoying.

                    Here is a single example from 10 seconds of scrolling.

                    Now, what are you going to do with that information? What was the point?

                    Edit: hahaha just search Mastodon for “eye contact”. There’s more than I originally thought.

      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        With “ideas” i am actually referencing any less then respect plans collecting data and monopolizing the fediverse meta may have.

        I wouldn’t be supposed if meta wasn’t paying some in house developers to help work on the open source federation improvements only to in same breath ease in compatibility with their own systems.

        If we’re not careful we might get properly invaded, meta will set the rules for the fediverse to follow. Independent communities that cant follow the same new protocols gets pushed out and will go extinct.

        At least thats what i understood is the reason threads gets defederated, better to break up now that its small then to get consumed as it grows.

        But i still hoped there could Be some safe doors and gateways in the middle.