Morgan Stanley is crediting President Biden’s economic policies with driving an unexpected surge in the U.S. economy that is so significant that the bank was forced to make a “sizable upward revision” to its estimates for U.S. gross domestic product, CNBC reports.As a result of these unexp
      • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
        175·
        1 year ago

        Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?

        • zombuey@lemmy.worldOP
          75·
          1 year ago

          The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.

          https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

          • Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            8·
            1 year ago

            He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.

            It’s unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he’s changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?

            • hark@lemmy.world
              12·
              1 year ago

              Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said “nothing would fundamentally change”. A couple bones thrown here or there doesn’t change that. I don’t know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he’s doing more than he actually is, but he’s really not.

          • SCB@lemmy.world
            61·
            1 year ago

            They’re not correct at all lol

            Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.

            Biden has literally always been a stand up guy

            Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.

            Maybe don’t get your news from rags

            • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org
              23·
              1 year ago

              Did you not see his response in the primary debates when kamala called out his segregation policies? Rather than admit that it was the wrong decision, he defended it and used the times as an excuse. Just look at his voting record, he’s been very conservative over his career. It doesn’t matter though, people change, and actions speak louder than words. He’s doing good stuff as president and that’s what matters right now.

              Edit: spelled Kamala wrong and I’m embarrassed

              • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
                4·
                1 year ago

                Can you at least try to spell the VP’s name right enough that people know who you’re talking about?

              • SCB@lemmy.world
                41·
                1 year ago

                Perhaps rather than an abrupt about-face at 80 years old, you’re simply incorrect about Biden’s “history.”

                He was right about schools. We lost a generation of black educators due to the way desegregation was handled nationwide. Biden accurately commented on this. We could have done better, which is literally what he was arguing for.

                I actually learned of this fact tangentially, through an old episode of Revisionist History. His campaign ignored it because it’s safer to ignore than to trust people to understand nuance. Sound campaign move, but plays to a lie, fundamentally.

          • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
            21·
            1 year ago

            Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.

              • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
                11·
                1 year ago

                Hell yes, thank you. I’ll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.

                Edit #1:

                when DOMA came up for a vote in the U.S. Senate on Sept. 10, 1996, Biden in his capacity representing Delaware in the U.S. Senate bowed to public sentiment at the time, voting in favor of the anti-gay law.

                Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?

                Edit# 2: damn it dude, this article makes me sad that Bernie got shafted. Thanks.

              • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
                11·
                1 year ago

                But the truth matters. Biden’s views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting-edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

                Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.

                So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?

                  • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
                    01·
                    1 year ago

                    we’re no better than maga-ites

                    Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

              • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
                11·
                1 year ago

                This one won’t load for me because I have my firewall block the entire Facebook domain. Can you provide a summary?

                  • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
                    11·
                    1 year ago

                    Marriage is between a man and a woman." - SENATOR JOE BIDEN (D-DE) (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 6/4/06)

                    Ok, so fuck Biden lol. What option is there for the next election cycle?

      • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org
        81·
        1 year ago

        While I agree with you, at least he’s behaving reasonably now. I don’t like all his decisions but I do like that many of the decisions are being delegated as they should be, and would re elect him against either of the two R frontrunners in a heartbeat. That’s not high praise, but I do think his administration is doing much better than I thought it would

        Edit: I’m surprised at the number of downvotes on the parent comment, they’re not exactly wrong.

          • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org
            31·
            1 year ago

            You don’t have to like or support him to acknowledge what the government is doing. Hell, I can even acknowledge that Trump made a few good decisions.

                  • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    I guess I never asked, what exactly did he do that ruined your life? Hard to imagine something to put him on an equal level with the guy who filled the court which lead to the overturning of roe v Wade and the protection of businesses to allow discrimination and to end affirmative action.