- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
The screenshot shows the recommendations from https://join-lemmy.org/.
Still being federated with exploding-heads does not mean the instance supports them. But it means that shit-heads are allowed to take part in the discussions on their communities. They do intoxicate the discussions we will have. They will attack minorities. Maybe you will not be harassed by them, more vulnerable people will be. They are allowed to moderate communities on these instances. Exploding-heads members actively guide young and unknowing people to their hateful instance.
They try to start discussions about the holocaust https://sh.itjust.works/post/227268. They create communities only to crosspost exploding-heads content https://lemmy.world/c/pharma They take over discussions against them https://exploding-heads.com/comment/132189 “WHY are vulnerable people joining a decentralized system? Isnt this why you want a closed, not for public eyes community?”
This was a link to exploding-heads, because when someone copies a permalink of a comment from them on another instance, it will be a link to their instance.
Are we building a place where vulnerable people are welcome and safe or are we building a place where nazis are welcome and safe?
They want you to block them, they comment that everywhere. They block people who are in favor of defederating them https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 When their opponents won’t see them anymore, they can harass and recruit without being noticed.
Blocking will not solve the problem. They will spread even when you close your eyes.
M̶a̶y̶b̶e̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ w̶a̶s̶ n̶o̶t̶ d̶o̶n̶e̶ i̶n̶t̶e̶n̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶l̶y̶, b̶u̶t̶ n̶o̶w̶ there is a post with a list of ‘health communities on Lemmy’ with the first entry guiding to exploding heads. https://lemmy.world/post/396561
It is still possible that some of the mentioned instances do support them. The owner of sh.itjust.works says that because of “free speech” all other instances would be allowed. It is suspicious to me that his line is drawn only for lemmygrad https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474
The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship, and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said, sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day.
I’d like to also point out that the lemmygrad instance has far more blocked instances than what is currently blocked here. Maybe you can create a post on that instance to see what that’s all about and report back?
At the same time they seem to ignore the call and vote to defederate with exploding-heads https://sh.itjust.works/post/433483.
They rejected to delete The_Donald from sh.itjust.works until they feared to get isolated from the other instances: https://lemmy.ml/post/1467310. They where aware of The_Donald and ignored early warnings. (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/266248). TD was more important to them than keeping the only mod of their 4th biggest community c/patientgamers (https://sh.itjust.works/post/291747, https://sh.itjust.works/post/388922)
Since The_Donald was removed, I did not find more racist content on the mentioned servers. That is part their tactics. They act harmless but recruit to their instance, attract likeminded people and chase others away. Discussions on sh.itjust.works about such topics are very toxic already, soon they might be able to do more harm.
(My research is very limited, as i could not search for all exploding-heads member content on other instances by entering their domain. I know there are nice communities on sh.itjust.works.)
What can be done? On joinmastodon.org there is a Mastodon Server Covenant with very few useful rules, one of them is “Active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia”. https://joinmastodon.org/covenant It would be a first step to implement these rules for join-lemmy.org. At least instances that want to be recommended on there should have to agree to that rule.
More actions should be taken now. Please make suggestions. Things will only become more complicated. The next reddit wave is incoming.
For those who did not already know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
This is not the first time new platforms face these problems, do we really have to repeat the same mistakes?
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It is fascinating to watch a lot of people who got purged from social media for being too leftist and flocked to a defederated forum created by free speech enjoyers go on to immediately start complaining about the lack of censorship and damning the concept of free speech having learned nothing in the process.
The most popular suggestion here seems to be isolating yourselves from any part of the Fediverse which doesn’t accept your demands. Now, if we could just get the Nazis to be stupid enough to follow in your footsteps and curtail their own methods of ideological propagation, this place might actually start to be kind of chill.
Instead they keep fucking talking to people and trying to convince them of stuff, which has proven vastly more efficient in achieving their goals. I am severely disappointed in all of you for making Nazis look intelligent by comparison.
I welcome your down votes, as disapproval from you is a mark that my brain is not grossly malfunctioning.
Oh please, could you be any more transparent in your attempts to gaslight the community? It is clear that you affiliate with bigoted and alt-right mindsets.
You are so cliche that your argument boils down to “Thinx about ya freedum of speks” as the reason behind your ignorant point of view.
Furthermore you are so one dimensional that you then play on the “you are all leftists” cliche. And then double down on the strawman argument of “downvoting me proves me right”.
0/10 Pathetic.
I’m so bigoted and alt right that I’m an anti capitalist far left Jew in a gay marriage who wants to see a revolution.
Are you beginning to see why I take pleasure in your disapproval? You are so materially fucking stupid that I consider it a mark of approval by the universe itself.
Bullshit you are. That’s the kind of lie a 15 year old would make up when called out.
And your opinions are worth about as much as used chewing gum.
Yeah, except I am and literally everyone who knows me knows that I am and it’s a well documented fact because I have a presence on the internet that you can literally just google and see for yourself.
I know this is fucking surprising for you, but Jewish people exist and can also be married to other men, and the majority of the present generation is on the left one way or the other.
Statistically speaking, you were bound to meet one eventually, and based on your behavior you were bound to inappropriately call them something they’re not.
You have two paths here: You can remain in fantasy land fervently huffing your own farts and disbelieving the reality that sits in front of your face, or you can accept that you just called a pansexual anti-capitalist jewish leftist alt right and take the L for being such a trigger happy fucking moron.
Either way?
Suck my Jewish balls bitch! 😸
“Created by free speech enjoyers”
Broski they could figuratively not be any more far left
It is difficult to find someone further left than me, and I enjoy free speech.
The problem with “Far left” is you could be talking about communists, or anarchists, or fucking stalinists, or me. There’s a few other ideologies that you could label that way too.
Were you meaning the people who made [email protected] are communists? Because I don’t really mind as long as I can say what I like here. I’ve never given an extraordinary amount of fucks what the ideology of a person hosting something I use is, so long as the thing works and they don’t fuck with it too much.
I find centrists and liberals to be just as, if not more, frustrating than ML roleplayers. At least the ML roleplayers are similarly pissed off at landlords and capitalism. Yet, I take part in centrist/lib boards all the time and get plenty out of it. So why would I be upset the people who made a board are commies if that belief they hold isn’t actively fucking me over?
Worst case scenario, if they do start fucking with it, I’ll just ignore the board and use another one.
Then I hope you won’t take my upvote as a mark that your brain is grossly malfunctioning :D
100%. Work together on stability, resilience and privacy while ignoring trolls? Hell no! Let’s focus on creating silos and sniffing our own farts first!
Telling the racists to get out is sniffing our own farts? Yeeeee, ok…