• loobkoob@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    If we’re considering testosterone to be a PED, perhaps we should ban everyone from sports…

    On a more serious note: why not advocate for putting people into “testosterone-level groups”, similar to how boxing, etc, do it with weight classes? Rather than just excluding trans women from competing.

    I also feel I have to ask: how do you feel about your niece losing in competitions to cis women who have biological advantages, such as higher (natural) testosterone levels, longer limbs, bigger hands, smaller busts, etc?

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        1 year ago

        So there is no problem then, since by your own word naturally occurring differences aren’t unfair. Trans women who transition even put themselves at a disadvantage compared to pretransition.

        Oh and trans women are real women, just like any other woman. They are not second class women, or “kinda women but really not”, they are 100% women. Same goes for trans men. And the whole “biologically male/female” strawmen has never been true but still evolved into this transphobic talking point to justify hate.

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          Biology isn’t a pseudoscience, if that’s what you meant by “biologically male/female strawmen.”

          and trans women are not biologically female. that’s not hatred. they are physically different. two different sexes. that’s not insignificant no matter how much you want to ignore it.

          bodies of different sexes are different.

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          This whole argument is so fringe and inconsequential it should really be handled by the board running the organized sport and not a matter of national debate. If the organization clearly states the rules they use to determine to who can compete and you agree to those rules when you sign up then there is no argument.