cross-posted from: https://l.lucitt.com/post/6770
I believe there are pros and cons for both. Imgur is great because you truly don’t have to think about disk space or bandwidth. Imgur is not great because they can delete your posts at any time without warning and leave holes on the interenet, especially if we’re talking 5, 10 , 20 years from now.
Should I invest in a beefy server to store all of my photo needs without storage anixety? Or should I just rely on a larger company to handle it for me? I think I’m already answering my own question by writing this post out, but I’d love to hear from the self hosting community.
Both. Use imgur or whatever service you like to actually share so you don’t have to worry about bandwidth and hosting. Just also keep a local copy of everything, doesn’t need to be a beefy server. Just don’t let a 3rd party online service be the only copy.
Ooh, I like this answer. If they pull it, you still have it. Can always post again.
Wasn’t it that Imgur will allow only registered and verified accounts to post in the future?
If the traffic plan allows it: self-hosting images is the way.
Yeah, I guess when it comes down to it, if you want 100% control you have to pay for it yourself.
I do both, at least in the context of linking say screenshots to others.
If I’m linking a very “casual” or non important screenshot then I’ll just toss it up on my server and link that copy.
If it were somewhat important, then I’ll upload it to my server and imgur and link the imgur copy, just in case my server goes down - doesn’t stop imgur from deleting it either but if I get hit by a train and am made unavailable then imgur is probably the best bet.
If it is critically important then I try to avoid screenshots / pictures all together and just describe it in text because that has the best chance of persisting. And if the text disappears, then at that point the image is probably not as useful either.
One other thing to consider is that if you goal is to keep the image up for 5, 10, 20 years, there’s actually way more chances it happens on imgur than on your self hosted webserver : one day you’ll be bored of maintaining it, and that’ll be that. A good part of the web from the 2000’ was deleted because we were hosting our blogs on our own servers, until we didn’t. In an ideal world, we would have a p2p web, where content is distributed by users of the site and it stays up for as long as one person seeds it, like the Beaker Browser tried to do with dat, but this is far from what most people use today. For now, the power of self-hosting is more suitably directed at providing apps you will use for yourself than to publish things meant to stay out in the world. Unless of course you’re ready to commit to that, knowing from the get go it will be a challenge.
The fact that this comment is implying that “centralization in major corporate platforma is better” with valid argument deeply bother me.
Especially because I don’t really have a counter argument…
Damn.
Ahah. Don’t worry, it bothers me as well. :) But well, we can’t solve our problems if we refuse to see them. Personally, I think the Beaker way was promising, but it was a project relying on a few people, so it died when they moved on. Maybe we will see something similar coming from IPFS, it’s a promising direction. The old recipe probably still work : for something to stick, it needs a standard and multiple implementations (that’s exactly why ActivityPub is doing so well, btw, in my opinion). I don’t see that coming from Dat, but I would bet IPFS is going there - at least it already has multiple implementations.
I really wished ZeroNet would become a thing, but that train has sailed.
