Yes, so I want to browse all but actually control the content, block instances, block keywords, etc… currently using Jerboa, but not married to it.

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    We really need this.

    Also for beehaw after the de-federation so they don’t pollute the feed with posts with 90% of comments missing.

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      100% agree.

      All of the political extremist and hate speech instances should be defederated. And Beehaw just because them defederating us creates a really bad user experience if we don’t defederate them as you could respond to comments/posts by beehaw users on other instances and not realise they won’t even see your replies.

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        But we would see our replies and could continue to discuss. Sure it would be a loss, but not completely so.

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        I don’t know that mutual defederation is necessary, I think a clear warning that that user and users from that instance won’t be able to see it would be enough. A red border on the comment with a hover tooltip explaining it seems like would work to me.

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        i dont see why that is such an issue, defederating beehaw seems punitive and petty

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    I honestly think that we should have major instances federated to everyone and instead of complete defederation, provide users with options to block (basically hide) content from certain instances and users from your feed. It would also be crucial to have a separate tab then for all (unfiltered) content. The thing is, one of the main problems with traditional socials is that it is so easy to create a bubble around you and not see anything outside of it. While it’s OK to have personalized feed, it’s also important to be able to see everything the way it is - even with marxists, stalinists, fascists and so on. Maybe having some arguments with them here and there would be good too.
    The other viable option is to just leave everything as it is, and retreat to viewing only subscribed content when you feel like it

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      The problem with allowing spaces for fascists to exist online is when they start existing in offline groups too. If discussion was the biggest risk then there would be no harm in letting them participate.

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      I agree. Having your opinions challenged is a good way to develop yourself into a kind and well mannered person.

      And if you are incapable of dealing with pressures, it should be easy to allow yourself to wall yourself in with the communities you vibe with using features available to block specific instances and people at the account-level and not the instance-level.

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        There’s people with differing opinions and there’s people who believe people they don’t like should be exterminated. And there’s trolling assholes. Differing opinions can be discussed, the other two disrupt communities.

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    If it is really that much of a problem, just block the 3 biggest communities of Lemmygrad and it will be quite improbable and infrequent for you to see posts from that instance. Although, isn’t easier and faster just to ignore them?

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    Interesting that everyone here wants to operate their feed on a blacklist basis. Personally I’d love the opposite, to be able to subscribe to instances or specific communities and only get content from those. The main reason I used Reddit over anything else is because it only showed you posts from subs you subscribed to.

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      You can set your feed to only show subscribed communities in your account settings.

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        Weird, it doesn’t work for me for some reason, I have to manually go into the “subscribed” tab each time. Also my point about not being able to subscribe to entire instances still stands. For instance(heh) bookwormstory.social is an instance dedicated to discussing a specific book series and currently has like 5 communities, and I’d have no way of knowing when they started a new community unless I manually checked.

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          I guess you could just create another account in that instance, though I agree it’s not really optimal…

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            @hemko

            On Kbin: Settings, under first section Appearance, select Homepage, select Subscribed, done, you see subscriptions first.

            On Lemmy: Settings, near the bottom above the checklist, select Sort type (default Active), select Subscribed.

            @rainfern @wioum @Wit

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          Hopefully you’ll get things sorted with getting subscribed as default view. I agree that it would be useful to be able to subscribe to a whole instance, but I think there are quite some technical hurdles to get there.

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    Another reason to block an instance is language. For example, https://feddit.de is a non-English language instance, I’ll never interact with anything from there.

    Though, perhaps that’s a separate issue. Maybe users should be able to set their language(s) and content can be blocked if it’s not in your language(s).

    Probably best to do it hierarchically, where instances have a default language, magazines can override the default instance language, and posts can overwrite the default magazine language.

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    kbin (kbin.social is currently working) allows individuals to block by domain. That would keep any top level memes off your /all but I think you still see comments.

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      There used to be one, but it was shut down and in general the Lemmy community has (had?) a good immune system against letting these people get a foot-hold.

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        Well, I had to see a ukrainians-are-nazis meme on my timeline and that’s not something I can just ignore. If I can’t find a way to get rid of that type of vomit I can’t continue using this platform. Remaining neutral always favors the oppressor.

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          Why are you browsing All then?

          I agree with your post and want the ability to block instances for the same reason, but I just try to block all political communities and then use Subscribed and Local.

          All is unfiltered by definition.

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          that was probably commies rather than the alt right

          they also have a tendency to call folks race traitors and deny genocides

          something something horseshoe

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          Join one of the many instances than block them then. I agree that lemmygrad is full of horrible people ever since the /r/genzedong migration there.

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            He wants to remove sources that produce bullshit, not be part of a body that removes anything that hurts the sensibility.

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              “remaining neutral always favors the oppressor” sounds like they want to remove anything that hurts the sensibility.

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                  I’m always wary of those who wish to censor others. To me, defederating from lemmygrad is the same as defederating from lemmy.world. you’re closing yourself off from other points of view and discussions with others.

                  Though I much prefer the fediverse view of “block/remove it from your own feed but they can still post as they please” than traditional social media’s “ban them off the entire platform for disagreeing”.

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                  I’m on the side of allowing discussion so that people can understand each other and not get stuck in polarizing echochambers.

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        Not the main one, that used to be wolfballs but it dissapeared from the net a short while ago. maybe it will come back, but it is still widely blocked.

        exploding-heads is more of a right leaning shitposting site.

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        Ygdrassil is probably the worst I’ve seen so far when it comes to far-right idiots, but don’t actually recommend you to check it out. The rules section alone is enough to make you vomit

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    I got banned frrom there just for saying that I don’t support the russian invasion. Russia isn’t even remotely socialist and Putin never hid his fascist beliefs. Dude can’t go 5 seconds without citing Ivan Ilyn and Carl Schmidt. I’m a leftist, but this dudes are totally lost in their ‘war’ against the west.