I just got a message from a trans friend saying they got banned from /r/trans for trying to post the feinberg image I made some time ago. They messaged me, saying they were crying, because they got banned from 4 trans subreddits because of it and they were one of their only places of support and was so shocked that it was against the rules. They were already harassed off reddit once. I mentioned they could come here.
Its so fucking crazy that literally the 2-5% of trans people, liberals, were able to get ahold of the trans subreddits and hold our communities hostage, fragment them, and purge any trans people that want to fight and advocate for third world trans people who are literally having bombs dropped on their heads. I spend half my time on here going through ban logs to make sure as many trans people get to be here as possible and are dealt with leniently because of shit like this.
ruins everything
The problem generally speaking is that liberals run a lot of reddit and there’s a certain type of liberal in mod teams that always wants the space to rigidly adhere to the liberal party line. That line at the moment is pro-zionism. So the outcome is this.
There is definitely some discussion in backrooms about whether it’s worthwhile for radicals to split from liberals when they do this. It’s an attitude of “the wrong kind of trans”. Support and protection in a community shouldn’t require you adhere to a certain political position on non-trans issues. Support and protection should be unconditional.
Never have I met a Pro-Putin, Zionism, Nazism, etc. liberal, it’s really odd to me to hear that. Like asking for colors that make no sense but people just nod like that it’s sensible like kale-white, dirt-blue, etc.
You’ve never met a pro-zionism liberal? It seems to be the norm among them.
I think it’s important to differentiate here between non-participant liberals and the participant liberals. Or “the masses” and the active political agitators. The liberals who are ideologically active true believers participating to push liberalism are all pro-zionist barring none. The general masses I agree are mostly indifferent or anti zionist.
Personally think it’s probably beneficial to the left to split from liberals on all things. It’s getting harder and harder to be in any form of non-ideological coalition with them, they can’t help but bat for imperialism. In an issue like this it’s explicitly harmful to the marginalised people they’re supposed to be holding as priority as well. My take is that the community needs a suite of explicitly leftist communities. These will reinvigorate some radicalism in the lgbt community that has dissipated due to liberal assimilation. The biggest issue with assimilation has been that it creates complacency and reduces the number of radicals as people see governments running pride parades and companies supporting lgbt people they see it as “won”. These companies and governments take over the role of organising and then when they stop doing it there are no organisers, because they were assimilated. The community then has no skilled radicals to continue it themselves so the lgbt community takes Ls on many fronts with no skilled organisers doing pushback.
Keep in mind I’m in Britain so my perspective is heavily coloured by my locality. I don’t know if things are drastically different in the states, I get the impression that they are a bit different in some ways.
Ahh, ok that is why, liberal in the US is a different term.