8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro ‘Analogous to 16GB’ on PCs, Claims Apple::Following the unveiling of new MacBook Pro models last week, Apple surprised some with the introduction of a base 14-inch MacBook Pro with M3 chip,…

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    Holy crap, apple charges $200 to add 8GB of RAM. I just bought 32GB of DDR5 for the Framework I have on order for $95.

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      And now look at the actual chip prices and you’ll know, why apple is so fucking rich

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      They have so much prestige and influence under their name that their super fans would buy anything from them at 1000% markup all because it’s a status symbol.

      Hell, they could sell bottles of piss and the super fans would gladly sell off all their sperm/eggs and all unnecessary organs just to get a drop of it because sTaTuS SyMbOl.

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        That might be true but it’s also embarrassing for all pc brands who get slaughtered by apples performance as soon as they actually attempt to make things. For example there isn’t a single laptop in the windows world that can match anything apple does

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          Any laptop with a recent GPU will beat an Apple Laptop for performance. Some higher end CPUs too.

          Apple has really good power efficiency, which is great when unpluged, but plugged in laptops with 200 to 300W TDPs are still better.

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            lol sure if you don’t mind an aircraft carrier and mini oven on your legs. Trust me I used to use one of those 200W laptops and honestly I didn’t even need a blanket in the winter because they run SO hot. not to mention odds are it will last a lot longer not running at those insane temps (which literally approach the max safe operating temp of the CPU on some laptops)

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              So? I know they get hot, that’s what 200-300W means. But when you said “there isn’t a single laptop in the windows world that can match anything apple does”, you were wrong. Laptops with GPUs still win in performance.

              Stop moving the goalposts.

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                Looks like you need to go back to school because that wasn’t even me LMAO, you don’t even know who you’re responding to.

                Stop being so bad at reading.

                I know that there are several Windows laptops that can match M-series performance or even beat it but there are 0 laptops on the market that can do everything better the MacBooks can. With windows you choose between portability, performance, and power usage. You don’t have to sacrifice any on a MacBook.

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          Hahahahaha

          I have friends who spec for their clients every day (I only do it occasionally). Mac laptops cost anywhere from 50% to 100% more than equivalent Dell and Lenovo laptops (ignoring the even less-costly brands, because none of us spec those).

          They all have access to the same hardware. And MacOS, despite the gaslighting in this article, isn’t any more performant on the same hardware in the real world.

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            They all have access to the same hardware. And MacOS, despite the gaslighting in this article, isn’t any more performant on the same hardware in the real world.

            Ah yes please tell me which PC OEMs are using the M-series chips 🙄

            Also AFAIK no other company makes their laptop top case/lid and hinges out of a single piece of metal. ALL other laptops glue/epoxy the hinges to the lid and they will (sooner rather than later) break. So if durability is what you’re looking for Mac’s are still built better than all other laptops.

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              What a strange boogeyman here. I have a 15 year old HP that was $400 when I bought it and the hinges are still fine.

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                Literally a lottery. I used to do laptop repair for my job. HP makes the shittiest computers I have EVER seen so you’re extraordinarily lucky.

                I lost count of how many HP laptops with broken hinges came across my desk. Too many. If you don’t know this issues exists it’s willful ignorance

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                  Try buying laptops at same price as MacBooks. Of course they’ll break if you buy a 100$ laptop from wish. Try galaxy books or Lenovo yoga

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              Have you ever actually seen a laptop lid just break off because the epoxy failed, or is this just a hypothetical? I used my last laptop for around 8 years, I took it with me to college every day in a backpack, on public transit. It got thrown around, scratched up, but the hinges didn’t break lol

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                I have tbh

                It was a shitty gaming laptop, but the hinges broke within a couple years. Still cost me nearly $2k at the time. I highly regret not buying the equivalent MacBook I was offered

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                Yes, several. Acer Nitro, Dell Inspiron 7000 series, several Lenovo Yogas, too many HPs to even keep track… If you have done laptop repairs at all for work in your life it’s honestly not even an uncommon sight.

                Now in the last generation of MacBook apple made it so that the flex cables were too short and flexing the hinge back and forth over time would cause the screen to go, but I’ve never seen a MacBook with broken hinges from normal use.

                Other brands do not do this because it is cheaper. Most do not pass those savings off to customers.

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              Ah yes please tell me which PC OEMs are using the M-series chips 🙄

              RP2040. Cortex M-series. :wheeze:

              hinges out of a single piece of metal.

              I’m trying to imagine hinge that is one solid object. I guess you bend you laptop to close it.

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                I’m trying to imagine the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to conjure that up :wheeze:

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          Circumstances outside gaming where any high end laptop isn’t good enough is pretty niche and I don’t think this really matters to most consumers. I would prefer to run Linux but at work, my options are Windows or MacOS. It’s a pretty easy choice. Apple products are great when someone else is paying for them.

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          This is mainly due to Windows being incompetent getting an ARM version of Windows in a usable state.

          Snapdragon claims to have a M2 level ARM chip for desktop/laptop. It will likely be pretty comparable to the M2, but what OS will it run? Not Windows. In fact at the enterprise level, Lenovo is selling laptops with Android in desktop mode.

          So, once that chip is released, I am guessing you will see great options with Linux and Android. Who knows, maybe Microsoft will surprise us with an update that lets Windows run reasonable well on ARM.

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      Won’t someone please consider that Apple has to spend all the extra effort soldering the ram to the motherboard?? Only $200 extra is a steal!

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      They have so much prestige and influence under their name that their super fans would buy anything from them at 1000% markup all because it’s a status symbol.

      Hell, they could sell bottles of piss and the super fans would gladly sell off all their sperm/eggs and all unnecessary organs just to get a drop of it because sTaTuS SyMbOl.

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      They have so much prestige and influence under their name that their super fans would buy anything from them at 1000% markup all because it’s a status symbol.

      Hell, they could sell bottles of piss and the super fans would gladly sell off all their sperm/eggs and all unnecessary organs just to get a drop of it because sTaTuS SyMbOl.

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      They have so much prestige and influence under their name that their super fans would buy anything from them at 1000% markup all because it’s a status symbol.

      Hell, they could sell bottles of piss and the super fans would gladly sell off all their sperm/eggs and all unnecessary organs just to get a drop of it because sTaTuS SyMbOl.