• LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Fairly trivial and well known concepts. I’m not even sure what you could possibly be confused about 🤷‍♂️

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      1 year ago

      How tf is a disc supposed to fit in a handheld? It would have so many downsides and people haven’t been buying discs for pc games for years now

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        1 year ago

        Oh for a handheld, whatever move to a cartridge, that’s some pedantic shit right there.

        And yes, valve did fuck up and trick PC gamers into accepting games you can’t resell. And yes, that’s why it’s cheaper to play on consoles and rent. That was very much the point.

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          1 year ago

          I’m pretty sure there are no cartridges for PC games at all

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              No portability, either, though that’s kinda irrelevant if you’re using a steam deck in the first place.

              More importantly, no ownership. Steam, or any other digital media outlet, can just invalidate the licence, change the terms of the license, invalidate the account it’s under, etc.

              While physical media has risks of its own, you are as much in control of those risks as you want to be. You only really have to worry about theft and catastrophic damage to the media, as those tend to be beyond complete individual control. With proper care, even discs can last a lifetime at least. Cartridges can last longer in theory.

              We haven’t run into it yet problems with it, but what about inheritance? There are people today that inherited games and consoles. That’s not an exaggeration, there were adults around for the first gen consoles that bought them, and have died in the last ten years. Their kids or grandkids now have them.

              There’s zero way to prevent inheritance of physical media. But licenses? Once some of the accounts get old enough, I guarantee that there’s going to be a wave of those accounts being shut down for bullshit reasons that are just an excuse to prevent anyone from passing the games down (and I’m as confident that, unless legislation occurs, Google and apple and whatever other companies use digital sales will find a way to ban inheritance of digital media).

              I’m not saying I object to the lack of physical media in every case, and a portable unit is a reasonable thing to not add the extra ports to (unlike a larger console, imo). There’s a use case for that. But the attempt to kill physical media sure as hell isn’t a good thing, it’s driven by what benefits the companies, not what’s best for customers.

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      I haven’t had a device with the ability to read discs in over 10 years. The last portable gaming device that could read optical discs was the PSP, as far as I can recall. Which came out in 2011.

      Again, what are you on about with the steam deck not being able to read discs as a criticism? It’s outlandish. To the point where I’m not even sure you know what a steam deck is.

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        Disc, cartridge, same shit. You are focusing on the media because the lot of you don’t understand what it is to be able to resell it rent games.

        The simple fact remains I play more games that I want than you for cheaper by renting them. And this pisses people off here. I haven’t even brought up $400 GPUs into the equation 🤣.

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          Disc, cartridge, same shit. You are focusing on the media because the lot of you don’t understand what it is to be able to resell it rent games.

          Your criticism was specifically with the fact that it didn’t have the capability to read discs. Something concerning the medium by which you can get to a game. I commented on that. If you want to talk about the latter than I place more value on owning my games and I’d rather not rent. Also, it’s not worth the effort for me to try to sell a physical copy of a game.

          The simple fact remains I play more games that I want than you for cheaper by renting them. And this pisses people off

          Why would that piss anyone off? Why would anyone even care? The way we consume media is personal and different for everyone. You seem to place a lot of value on the amount of games you’ve played over the course of a year. Other people, shockingly, might not.

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              You’re just dumb as fuck, every single comment you’ve made here has made that more and more obvious. It really looks like you’re consciously trying to be wrong and fail basic comprehension.

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              You’ve done a very good job of talking past me. Perhaps learning how to converse with others before engaging might be beneficial for you