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      As an actual father-in-waiting - no it is not. That little thing is going to be a human, maybe. Not a human yet.

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        How is it not a human in the early developmental stages? This reads as cope to me tbh. A baby doesn’t magically become human when it comes out of a vagina. A baby 6 months into pregnancy has pretty much all their body parts. They have a brain, a nervous system, arms/legs, etc

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      Do you consider it mass murder when you ejaculate? All that sperm can be considered people by your logic. Is a woman having her period or a miscarriage murder? After all, all of those cells or dead fetuses she’s purging are clearly people. If a fetus, which is a parasitic clump of cells that isn’t conscious and depends on the host to survive, is considered a person, then by your logic, so is sperm, eggs, miscarried fetuses, and even cancer.

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        Why do leftists keep asking that? At first, I thought it was just a one-off dumbass, but now its way past that point.

        And sperm are not fetuses.

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          My mother has three children but had four pregnancies. She unfortunately can’t give birth naturally and needed C-sections. The complications that come with C-sections get greater each time and doctors (at least at the time) heavily recommended against more than three C-sections.

          She had to terminate her third pregnancy because the fetus didn’t develop properly and the babies spine wasn’t connected. He would have lived for maybe 30 seconds before dying an incredibly painful death if brought to term. My youngest sibling wouldn’t be here if she needed to bring that baby to full term.

          Overturning Roe v Wade is already putting thousands in similar situations or worse, like the examples brought up in John Oliver’s segment.

          You don’t oppose murder. You support suffering.

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          idk what it is with you americans but why does everything have to be about politics.

          Don’t need to put a label to everything that is bad in your opinion. Its your opinion, great, good for you. You don’t have to get an abortion if you don’t like it.

          What is the land of the free where everyone is living their way. Other people are just as American as you are and can do whatever they want to, whether you like it or not.

          Just because drinking is bad and is killing parts of your brain and i dont like it doesnt mean i get to decide if people can get drunk or not.

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            I just think killing babies is wrong and shouldn’t be encouraged as a secondary form of birth control. That is a real living human in the early stages and I think it’s sick that we treat their life with such disregard.

            Just because drinking is bad and is killing parts of your brain and i dont like it doesnt mean i get to decide if people can get drunk or not.

            Drinking while pregnant is already illegal, so it seems there is precedent in law for treating fetus’ as a human being. You also can get charged with double murder if you kill a pregnant woman. Why is that?