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      You’re trying to massage the idea that a leader for life, who can never be removed because no other party can have a seat in their congress, is a functioning democracy? Really? What a hill to die on.

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        The party can always remove any leader including Xi Jinping if he is no longer performing his role according to the party and the people’s expectations. Also, there are numerous (at least eight) other parties represented in the National People’s Congress of China other than the CPC. On top of that there is a larger proportion of independents than in the US congress. But this is beside the point because it would still be a democratic system even if there was only one party allowed.

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          He won with 100%. 2,952 votes present and for.

          A dissident in the Chinese congress gets removed with immediate effect.

          He is dictator for life.

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            Tell me you have no idea how China’s political system works without telling me you have no idea how China’s political system works.

            Also, are you going to admit you were wrong when you claimed, quote

            “no other party can have a seat in their congress”

            or are you just going to sweep that lie or embarrassing admission of ignorance under the rug?

            Why are you moving the goalposts? If Xi Jinping has to be periodically confirmed in his position by the representatives of the Chinese people then he is not “dictator for life” then is he? The fact that you cannot imagine a political consensus like that existing over a genuinely successful and popular leader is simply a testament to the dysfunction of your own liberal western political systems.

            Furthermore, please show us evidence for this claim:

            “A dissident in the Chinese congress gets removed with immediate effect.”

            Where in China’s laws does it say this and when has this ever happened?

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              LMAO, nice quote who is it from? Even children make better arguments than to make up a statement and claim it’s a quote of the other person.

              I think the burden of proof would be on you in this case.

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                Literally you two comments ago:

                “You’re trying to massage the idea that a leader for life, who can never be removed because no other party can have a seat in their congress, is a functioning democracy? Really? What a hill to die on.”

                Will you admit you were wrong or will you deny your own words?

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                  Ah right, that’s fair, feels odd that you’d quote me further back in response to a newer comment. You know that was literally a week ago?

                  But no, my point still stands, Xi Jinping cannot be removed from power and his party cannot lose control of congress.

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                    Xi Jinping cannot be removed from power and his party cannot lose control of congress

                    You are conflating two entirely different things here.

                    One is whether Xi Jinping can be removed from power, which he absolutely can by the congress and the party choosing not to re-elect him. Whether or not this will happen depends on how well he does his job and when he will become too old to be fit to govern.

                    Another is whether the Communist Party of China can lose control of congress, something which it can only do if the people lose confidence in their rule. China as a socialist state of course has it enshrined in law that the reins of power will always be held by the Communist Party. That is a good thing.

                    The Communist Party represents the working class and the working class is in charge under socialism. That is called the dictatorship of the proletariat and it’s what socialism is about. Sorry but we are communists here and we are not going to make excuses for liking the fact that communists rule in a communist country.

                    The approval rating of the CPC government among the Chinese people is over 90% even according to western studies and polls by the way. Why remove a leader and a ruling party when by all metrics they are doing a fantastic job?