Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.

  • Dalek Thal@aussie.zone
    221·
    1 year ago

    This is a shit outcome. It’s not surprising, but it’s shit. To the Indigenous Australians amongst us: I’m sorry. I hope one day Australia will show you the respect and care you deserve.

    Ultimately, I’m angry. Angry at this country, really. We need to be better than this.

    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone
      11·
      1 year ago

      Agreed. First Nations peoples should get the vote and the right to have elected representatives in all levels government. I just don’t understand why people would vote no to that.

      • Seagoon_@aussie.zone
        5·
        1 year ago

        seriously, I thought I would be flamed for that post

        If I had 400 million I would have spent it on educating First Nations people on how to use the power they have, to vote and stand for elected government. Government has the power to make policy and direct spending.

        USE YOUR POWER.

      • landsharkkidd@aussie.zoneEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Yeah I really just do not understand why it’s a bad thing that our First Nations peoples can have more say when it comes to stuff related to them. Like I heard one wild thing was if the voice was majority yes, then First Nations peoples would kick every person out of their house.

        First, what an absolutely wild assumption. Secondly, I mean that’s what white colonisers did…

    • the_procrastinata@aussie.zone
      8·
      1 year ago

      I’m really angry and sad. I’m angry and sad like I was when Australia voted in Morrison’s shit circus in 2019 over Bill Shorten‘s genuine reform alternative. Fear, ignorance, and a really nasty bubbling streak of racism.

    • Duenan@aussie.zone
      8·
      1 year ago

      I was hoping that there might have been a chance that it got through but it seems not to be.

      It’s really sad to be honest that this is the outcome.

    • tone_212@aussie.zoneEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      Looks like Victoria is the only state that might vote yes and even that’s not a given. I really thought this would be closer.

    • TinyBreak@aussie.zone
      61·
      1 year ago

      We ARE better than this. Let’s be clear, Australia has voted against Murdoch media in the past, but labor set this up to fail hard. Albo should resign. This will be spun as a win for the libs, but a huge portion of Aussies didn’t understand what they were voting for. I agree, those who didn’t had a responsibility to educate themselves, but labor had a responsibility to show people why this was a vote for unity.

    • landsharkkidd@aussie.zoneEnglish
      62·
      1 year ago

      I’m just, I’m so disappointed. I mean, it feels weird to vote for the idea to give people more rights when they’re the ones who lived here first. It’s like taking a vote on if you should allow your housemate to be on the lease.

      It’s just really disappointing. Labor didn’t expect that the No vote would come out swinging and because of that there was A LOT of misinformation. Honestly, if you have fucking NAZI’S on your side… you should really re-evaluate your opinions.

  • Bottom_racer@aussie.zone
    14·
    1 year ago

    After this result (I voted yes) I hope what comes next is more funding for better indigenous health outcomes and remote community support through legislation.

    This isn’t the end of the conversation.

  • TinyBreak@aussie.zone
    152·
    1 year ago

    Not looking forward to the results of the national racism check. We probably didn’t need a referendum to know the result. God I hope I’m wrong.

      • melbaboutown@aussie.zone
        6·
        1 year ago

        So not a fan of this crap. Certain politicians don’t want to take responsibility for their bigoted views, so they ask citizens to decide and then stir up smear campaigns and misinformation. And so many people buy it.

        Gay marriage was banned in 2004 by John Howard’s government and it only got made legal again in 2017 because the hatemongering/sabotage didn’t work and the numbers passed. (There are legal differences but the underlying plan was the same.)

      • Seagoon_@aussie.zone
        62·
        1 year ago

        NOT ALL. 45% voted yes

        And I think too many people who voted no are just really really stupid and let themselves be swayed by simple propaganda.

        why the fuck can’t reasonable people make propaganda to sway voters?!>! It’s not unethical to have catchy jingles.

  • PeelerSheila @aussie.zone
    13·
    1 year ago

    Ok morning, here’s my plan…

    • attend to Minipeelers re breakfast and Milo/chai
    • exercise
    • vote
    • grocery
    • butcher
    • get a soup stock on
    • get a soup on
    • Mt Washmore
    • pretend to relax while I worry about everything else that needs to be done
    • worry about turning 50 in a few days
    • buy small gift or two to give to Mr P to give to the kids to give to me

    In no particular order.

  • Pilk@aussie.zone
    11·
    1 year ago

    Victoria has had a First Peoples’ Assembly since 2019. This is largely identical in role and function to what the federal Voice would be, but it is tasked with representing its views at a state level.

    Sadly, while I try to hold on to a bit of hope, it is almost certain Victoria will not be voting Yes today.

    Make it make sense.

    • SituationCake@aussie.zone
      8·
      1 year ago

      I know people both who are voting yes and no. Whilst the odd person that votes no might have a thought through reason, there’s also many who are voting no because Don’t know, Can’t be bothered I have better things to do, Conspiracy theory xyz , I hate Albo, why should they get something special, etc. Its horrifying how many people are in this category. I think the vote is not really split between yes and no, it’s split between yes, no, and cooker. Was never gonna be a fair debate.

    • Ilandar@aussie.zone
      6·
      1 year ago

      Make it make sense.

      One was victim to a widespread, American-style disinformation campaign. The other was not. That is the difference.

      Always remember that polling was supportive of a national Indigenous advisory body until the Coalition completely abandoned their historic position of bipartisan support and started bombarding Australian voters with unadulterated lies.

      • Dalek Thal@aussie.zone
        51·
        1 year ago

        We need to fucking do something about our media. That’s the problem. Misinformation and propaganda outlets control almost all of the media, and tbh I think News Corp needs to be completely shuttered.

        The No vote will be a terrible outcome for the Indigenous Australians, and the children of colonisers irresponsibly ignored their wishes because of a perceived “risk”.

        When every constitutional law expert has been ignored, then you know there’s a real problem

    • Nath@aussie.zone
      3·
      1 year ago

      WA has a body at the State level, also. WA will also likely return a “No” vote.

  • Duenan@aussie.zone
    11·
    1 year ago

    I woke up a little late after being exhausted last night. I decided to go ahead and cook my big breakfast or in this case lunch.

    I’ve got toasted bread, eggs under the bacon, some charred fried tomatoes, onion and mushrooms with some hash brown and a couple of sausages and also a little bit of Dino pasta.

    Sorry about messiness of the plate and playing but here it is.

    I have to say I’m stuffed now.

    photo of my big lunch

  • just_kitten@aussie.zone
    11·
    1 year ago

    Wondering to risk putting the laundry out - it’s all blustery out there and looks miserable but no real rain as such.

    The black dog continues to lurk for honestly no good reason at all. It’s getting quite tedious. I have taken my massive vit D supplement but something tells me I need more sun. I’ve enjoyed having my blackout blinds in my bedroom but I think I need to leave more sun filtering through so I wake up more naturally and start the day a bit less groggy and shitful…

    E: I had some coffee and it definitely helped but now I feel a bit jittery instead. I started looking at jobs in Perth …

      • just_kitten@aussie.zone
        4·
        1 year ago

        Bleah. Might just. Looks like little bands of spitting showers here and there. At least Tuesday is looking good for doing the sheets and blankets…

  • Rusty Raven @aussie.zoneM
    10·
    1 year ago

    One disadvantage of living near the top of a hill is that the walk home is always upwards. A lot of walking to write a few letters on a piece of paper, but I did get to see some nice gardens on the way - one place in particular had a stunning native garden. I also got to pat a dog (a young excitable Husky, which I expect will be trouble in the future as the owner did not seem to have any idea how to deal with it, unfortunately).

    • Salvo@aussie.zoneEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      We live in the top of a hill too.

      I walked to vote this morning. The rest of the household drove. They bet me there and back by 30 seconds.

      The walk back uphill was very tiring because they didn’t have Democracy Sausages at the Polling Station.

      • Rusty Raven @aussie.zoneM
        2·
        1 year ago

        My walk was about 20 mins each way, so driving definitely would have been quicker. It would be half the time if I could walk direct, but there is a big sports complex and a school in the way I have to walk around.

  • Duenan@aussie.zone
    9·
    1 year ago

    I think I made the mistake of turning on to the abc’s vote counting broadcast.

    Listening to a politician on his view about the No vote and how he talks makes me sick.

    Of course they support the idea and everything about recognition and how there’s so many ways to word it but of course they’re opposed to the no vote for the same amount of reasons and words that all mean the same thing.

    Political spin makes my head hurt.

    I’m putting on a movie before the women’s afl or cricket starts.