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    Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It’s still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it’s probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.

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      Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It’s still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it’s probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.

      Unlike most online gaming communities, there are many people in the world that enjoy playing video games. So, when they see a game that looks fun to play, they buy it or pre-order it.

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        I love how you imply people here don’t enjoy playing videogames, when in reality we do, we just expect a 70 dollar product to fucking work.

        What you’re describing is called being a “consumer whore” and is the #1 reason unregulated capitalism will always lead to our demise. Consumers are morons and will willingly pay full price for some broken loot box addled bullshit because they didn’t learn from the last fifteen times they got burned when preordering.

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          Is this the part where I refer to people worried about pre-orders as “basement dwelling losers having nothing in their lives worth caring about other than whether other people pre-order games” and then we trade insults for a few comments trying to get the last word until one of us gets bored?

          I mean, that’s what we would do on Reddit, but not sure if that’s the case around these parts.

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      I was going to buy it anyways, even if it’s a mess. If I spend the money now, the game feels free later.

      I actually haven’t preordered it and might not, but this is how I felt about Mass Effect Legendary Edition, and Bethesda games are at the same tier for me. I have hundreds of hours in every game since Morrowind; I’ll eventually get my money’s worth.

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        If I spend the money now, the game feels free later.

        “If I pay full price for a sub par product now, it feels like a free upgrade when they finally give me what they told me I’d get six months ago!”

        Do you also punch yourself in the nutsack because when it feels so good when you stop?

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          Thanks for your concern, but I think I understand my own enjoyment of things and my financial situation better than an internet stranger.

          I’ve preordered two games in the last decade and I regretted neither (ME:LE and FO4). If I regret this one, I’ll get over it.

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            Thanks for continuing to be a part of the problem with videogame development and the reason AAA gaming is a disaster 👍

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    Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.

    But it’s even worse with a Bethesda game.

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      Exactly my thoughts. If nothing else, this year specifically should hint everyone that triple A doesn’t mean finished release. And being among the first to beta test something for mega corp? No thanks. I’ll wait and see.

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      Lots of people say they pre-order so they can preload it in advance and play it the minute the launch goes live.

      …but if it’s a buggy mess they won’t be able to play it regardless.

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    I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.

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      I literally don’t get it either. “BuT It lEtS me DOwNlOaD iT iN AdVanCE” but like are you really that impatient you need it the second it’s released? And before seeing if it’s actually a good game or not?? It’s like people have learned nothing from the constant shitty releases time and time again

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    When will you learn!? That your actions have consequences!

    Well that’s disappointing. As excited as I am, I actually recall the distant events of this year…no preordering.

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      Queue the “internet people are a vocal minority” saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me

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      well. yeah. i know people don’t like to hear it, because it’d be really nice if games shipped actually finished or not incredibly bug-ridden Day 1, but for most people the protest of not preordering a game so it’ll shipped finish just… doesn’t register as a concern. unless the game is so broken it’s actively unplayable (see the recent Gollum game) most people can hang with whatever happens Day 1 and it’s not a super big deal to them, nor is the principle of a playable game on launch. this is a case of online sentiment being a vocal but clear minority.

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        Yep!!! A game forum is a subsection of a subsection of people who actually play video games on the regular. The biggest groups of “gamers” are people like my cousin who buy the new FIFA, NBA2k and COD that come out every year.

        On top of this Bethesda is one of the biggest game companies out there. It’s easy to forget because Skyrim was forever ago, but that game was so fucking huge that people I knew who didn’t care a single lick about video games asked me when “the dragon game” was coming out and if I was gonna get it and if they should get it too. I’m already getting messages from non-gaming friends asking me when starfield is coming out. The game’s gonna be explosive in popularity when it drops.

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    I won’t even consider buying until it’s been out for at least a year or two. By then the major bugs will have been fixed and all the content added.

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    Fellas! Why are games today so buggy! Why are they incomplete? I just don’t understand!!!‽‽???

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      My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.

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        Let’s not kid ourselves, Bethesda depends on the unofficial patches and mods to really make their games working and shining. A year or two is mandatory for their games. 😅

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      Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.

      Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn’t matter a bit.

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    This have looks fabulous to me, but there’s no way I’m preordering. I don’t have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don’t mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)

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      SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.

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      How are you finding Fallout 76? I gave up playing a few weeks after purchasing. It was practically unplayable. I tried again, like a year later, and it wasn’t much better. Bugs made missions impossible to complete, often causing me to have to replay from the beginning. I loved Four and was so disappointed in this one. If it’s been fixed, I wanna play it again.

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    I don’t really care that people throw away their money like this. Because I am now always looking forward to the always very entertaining youtube clips of how much off a disaster the lastet AAA videogame release is.

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    When will they learn that their actions have consequences? Star field is going to be a fucking disaster lol.

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    I don’t really get the pre-order game market. Tired it once and turned out to be a complete disaster. The game was Batman Arkham Knight. That game should have been a crime to sell in that condition.

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      Especially with starfield. It is day one on gamepass so the only reason to pre-purchase is for early access and special editions. The game looks like it could be good or fall flat but I can spend $1 for a month of gamepass to find out for myself.

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      Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.

      Hopefully there’s a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.

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        The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening

        Or they are listening and just don’t care.

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      100%. I’m a diehard Bethesda RPG fan, but never ever preorder. I’ll never understand the stupidity in doing this.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y

        Basically, preordering incentivizes companies to release games that are not finished. In general, companies will always maximize revenues while minimizing costs. If they can release a game that didn’t cost them as much to produce (getting massive preorders through good marketing but pinching development and quality) then they absolutely will. look at any AAA released this year

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        I think one reason is that Bethesda’s previous game’s, Fallout 76’s, release didn’t go very smoothly. Not at all smoothly. Internet Historian has a good video about that: The Fall of 76

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    TFW you’re broke and $70 is the norm for AAA games now. As much as I want to get this on Steam so I can have all the games in one account, it’s looking like I have no choice but just play it on the XBOX game pass when it comes out. Living the PH, it’s 3 USD a month here.

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        Typical Crimson Fleet geezer right here.

        I’m on the same page as you are, though.

        @[email protected] you should probably do the same if the price tag is too much for you. If you really do feel wrong about it, you could first get the game, keep playing it all you want, and then just pay later; or, if the experience turns out to be disappointing, never pay for it as a result.

        Either is better than pre-ordering. Even if Starfield is worth every penny on launch, i.e. no bugs, no issues that cannot justify the price tag, not a single argument against the very practice of pre-ordering games, giving companies money before they deliver anything at all is giving them much more than just the money - it’s giving them an idea that it’s okay to ask for money before any of the paying customers ever get anything, and this kind of appeasement has to stop.