Ukraine war: Kyiv claims more villages retaken but picture mixed - BBC News
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Kyiv claims to have snatched back a number of settlements in recent days - though they are all small in size.
  • Ukraine says it has liberated four villages in the south-east, calling these the first settlements won back from Russia since Kyiv’s counter-offensive began
  • On Monday morning, officials reported that “the national flag is once again waving” over Storozhove, in the Donetsk region
  • A day earlier, footage showed Ukrainian troops celebrating in Blahodatne and Neskuchne - and a minister said nearby Makarivka was also taken
  • The settlements are relatively small - and Moscow is yet to confirm any retreat
  • The Institute for the Study of War backs up Kyiv’s claims, saying Ukraine captured “multiple settlements” along the frontline over the weekend
  • On Saturday, President Zelensky acknowledged that the long-awaited counter-offensive was under way
  • loops@lemmy.ml
    42·
    1 year ago

    ITT: Russian sympathisers coping

    It’s good news; though, nothing spectacular like the earlier offensive. It’s to be expected though, the muscovites have had time to build up those defences.

    • Rogue_General@lemmy.world
      31·
      1 year ago

      Hopefully the exodus from Reddit will help drown out the authoritarian-worship here.

      Yes, my Russian-sympathizing friends. You can certainly classify the actions of Russia and China as imperialist & bad too, and it will not detract from the imperialist & bad stuff the US or “the West” has done. Most humans can walk and chew gum at the same time, you can too!

      Edit: My first downvote here! Looks like there are indeed some people who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time :P

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
          31·
          1 year ago

          Wikipedia’s first paragraph is:

          Imperialism is the practice, theory or attitude of maintaining or extending power over foreign nations, particularly through expansionism, employing not only hard power (economic and military power), but also soft power (cultural and diplomatic power). Imperialism focuses on establishing or maintaining hegemony and a more or less formal empire.

          Russia (and the Soviet Union) has had multiple rounds of imperialism throughout its history. Slicing bits off Ukraine and its continued occupation of parts of Georgia in the modern era certain counts as expansionism. It also exercises cultural power by using state controlled Russian-language media to influence both domestic and foreign populations.

    • Count042@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      It’s shit like this that makes this one of the hardest wars to follow. Before that, it was Syria.

      The Russian commanders, who were wrong to invade, have learned a lot since the initial invasion. It’s the same reason that Assads army was much better after they lost a lot of their soldiers. When you have a lot of your army die, on average, the ones remaining are the ones who managed to stay alive who, again on average, are now much more experienced combat troops.

      The Russians did exactly what Ukraine did during the Russian offensive. They pulled back behind their minefields, and then used artillery to drop more mines on the assaulting force that was in the process of clearing mines. This was the same tactic that the Ukrainians used to great success that caused a bunch of Russian tanks to be blown up in columns in Vulhedar.

      Remember, good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. If the basis of your view of why you think a given side is losing is because you don’t like them, then you aren’t actually interested in the war. Just in cheerleading your team.

      Honestly, I can’t understand the strategic goal of how the Ukrainians are running this particular offensive. It truly seems to be to spend as much Ukrainian blood to secure western financial and logistical support. Not to actually gain territory they can hold. At least, that’s my best guess with articles like this in the American media: Politico

    • BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml
      01·
      1 year ago

      you know it’s possible to ‘dislike’ Russia and at the same time know that they will completely overpower Ukraine, right? you’re letting your hatred for Russia blind your understanding of military power and strategy

      • FaceDeer@lemmy.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        Anyone that “knows” they will completely overpower Ukraine apparently stopped paying attention to reality many years ago. They’ve been proven to be incapable of it.

        • BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml
          03·
          1 year ago

          oh cool, i’ve found the military understander. so what is Ukraine’s strategy here? What does victory look like for them?

          In weapons, ammunition, and soldiers Russia outnumbers the AFU, as assessed by any reasonable expert. Russia sees this as a special military operation, not a war. They are comfortable being conservative with their resources and not committing too many at once (which is what they’ve done so far). Even with this restraint, they are killing Ukrainian soldiers at a higher rate than Russian soldiers are dying. Russia has an army, including reserves, of around 2million soldiers.

          Look I hate seeing young men sent into a meat thresher because they are serving the interests of NATO and capitalist interests. I wish the AFU had the courage to not waste the lives of their soldiers and come to the negotiating table so that no more lives are senselessly wasted

          • FaceDeer@lemmy.ml
            3·
            1 year ago

            I wish the AFU had the courage to not waste the lives of their soldiers and come to the negotiating table so that no more lives are senselessly wasted

            What’s to negotiate? Russia has seized Ukrainian territory. Ukraine wants it back. There’s nothing for Ukraine to concede.

            The only side “wasting” lives here is Russia, if they’d just go home the war would be over. Ukraine’s not going to try seizing any Russian territory.

            • BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml
              21·
              1 year ago

              i am once again urging you to understand that the war began in 2014.

              the LPR and DPR regions are ethnically russian. they were living peacefully until 2014 when their political parties were disbanded and they’ve been systematically shelled by ukranians every day since 2014. minsk 2 would have reintegrated Donbas with Ukraine with some protections for its minority population, but Ukraine didn’t even implement the first step. zelensky was elected on a platform of ending the war, but when he tried Azov told him they would rather coup his government than stand down. at some point when negotiations are broken down the only thing any organization has left to do is resort to violence, which the Russian state did when it felt threatened enough by NATO (which if you’ll recall spent months warmongering prior to the invasion start) to justify the risk.

              • FaceDeer@lemmy.ml
                21·
                1 year ago

                Of course, the people of the Donbas were just sitting there peacefully doing nothing when all of a sudden the Ukranians started shelling them. That was the start of the military action, silly me. Good thing all those vacationing Russian soldiers happened to be there a the time to defend them.

                • cryball@sopuli.xyz
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  In 2022 it also just happened that russia was hosting possibly the largest military excercise in recent memory right on Ukraine’s border when the situation turned too menacing. Good they happened to have all those cruise missiles ready as if they hadn’t acted, russia would have been wiped out or something…

                  Occam’s razor cuts well on the two “possible” viewpoints of this war.

                  First is that big country sees an opportunity to capture land from a smaller one. In multiple stages between 2014 and 2022. A very limited amount of assumptions that can explain what is happening…

                  Second presumes that all the occupied areas secretly wanted to be a part of russia, nato is threatening russian territory while not being present, non affiliated soldiers with russian (but not russian) equipment occupy areas, a jewish president turns out to be in charge of a genocidial nazi regime that just has to be replaced with a peaceful one, and finally all of this is best achieved by a 3 day (actually 476) special military operation that has a goal of achieving something, but nobody actually knows what.

                  • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
                    04·
                    1 year ago

                    Occam’s razor cuts well on the two “possible” viewpoints of this war.

                    You really need to stop sniffing your own farts.

                    Every world leader and military strategist since the 1930s has understood Ukraine to be critical to the national security of Russia. That’s why the Third Reich invaded Russia across the Ukrainian border. When the USSR was being dismantled, all world leaders understood Ukrainian neutrality to be a critical component of Russian national security. It was openly discussed. It’s been a known component of international security for decades.

                    And yet, when we got access to leaks, we learned that simultaneously while NATO was telling Gorbie that Ukraine would remain neutral, Clinton was working internally to figure out to get NATO to establish presence in Ukraine. Despite Russia telling NATO and the world that Ukraine is critical to their national security, the war machine just kept on rolling. Despite Russia not reacting to all other border occupations by NATO in the Baltic states, this was the one red line that everyone knew about publicly that would tip Russia over the edge.

                    And that’s exactly what happened. The idea that NATO wasn’t threatening Russia because it wasn’t physically installed yet is such a ridiculous point. Are you proposing that Russia would only have a casus belli after NATO finished installing nuclear capabilities? Are you proposing that Russia should wait until NATO is ready to fight before choosing to fight?

                    It’s clear that you’ve only read analysis from the last year and only from Western sources. Just go read about this history from the 90s. Actually engage with the historical context here.

              • catboss@feddit.de
                1·
                1 year ago

                That’s the most tankie shit I have read in a while. I don’t get how anyone with a modicum of humanity can go out of their way to defend the war of aggression Russia is waging against the people (mostly civilians!) of Ukraine.

                You seriously need to stop living in your tiny bubble. The shit you are spewing is just sad and you probably don’t even get why what you say is awful.

                So I sincerely ask you to either become a better person or just stfu.

                • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
                  03·
                  1 year ago

                  I love how you think the person who is going against the dominant Western narrative is the one living in a bubble when the US operates the largest, most effective, and most funded disinformation and propaganda apparatus in the history of the world.

        • Skooby1@lemmy.world
          03·
          1 year ago

          Ukraine hasn’t even reached the first anti-tank trenches yet, which are at the first line of defense which is part of at least three lines of defense (depending on location). They’ve taken very heavy losses to this point too.

          Ukraine is getting stomped, and that’s why the NATO bosses are now talking about possibilities like a coalition of the willing or even giving Ukraine tactical nukes in one extreme case I read.