Donald Trump has been flayed alive by Western media and leaders for saying Ukraine started the war. Here are facts, not myths, says Joe Lauria. By Joe Lauria Special to Consortium News The outcry spread quickly across the Western world: Donald Trump dared say Ukraine started the war.
  • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    27·
    15 days ago

    Think of an encampment of protesters in Lafayette Park, some of whom are violent. They are calling for the ouster of the U.S. president from the White House across the street.

    Two senior Russian lawmakers then show up in the park. They appear with protest leaders and address the crowd, encouraging them, telling them Russia is with them.

    Then the Russian deputy foreign minister in charge of North American affairs appears in Lafayette Park handing out food to the encamped demonstrators.

    Later the minister is caught on an open telephone line discussing with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. the composition of the new American government once the president is overthrown. This minister had also made a speech saying Russia spent $5 billion to bring democracy to the United States.

    The elected American president is then overthrown violently and flees the country. Russia installs the government it has selected. California rejects the Russian-installed regime and says it is breaking away from the United States. The new coup government then launches a war against California.

    If this actually happened in Washington, do you think anyone in the U.S. would say that Russia had anything to do with overthrowing the U.S. government? Or would they have just said he was ousted by “popular demonstrations?”

    Great way to lay it all out.

  • WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    26·
    15 days ago

    The article is great, but I dislike the idea of supporting Trump’s rhetoric. It wasn’t really Ukraine that started the war, but their puppet master. The US (and the article does cover that, despite the headline). Trump is just trying to play innocent.

      • Soviet Pigeon@lemmygrad.ml
        13·
        15 days ago

        It is brutal how the entire Ukrainian population was used and abused. Ukraine is fucked for a very long time. I am not talking about all the damage which has been done which can be solved with money and goods, but their population is so much on decline. How will you recover from that? They need either a lot of immigration or force people to give birth to children every 2 years idk.

        And then still I read sometimes comments, that the war should only end, if Ukrainian borders are restored not only how they were before the war but also Crimea should be included. Its like people are playing Civilization VI idk