• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      humanity kills themselves

      Pockets of humanity will endure this at least as well as they endured the Ice Age or the Toba Explosion. But there’s around 8 billion of us bouncing around today. The transition down to something like even just 1 billion would be nightmarish to live through.

      This isn’t a question of humanity hitting the “off” switch nearly so much as it is asking ourselves how we want our grandchildren to live a century from now.

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      Or to our wealthy overlords … it will kill off the “surplus population” and leave more room and resources for them.

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        The wealthy overlords require a multitude of cheap labor to retain their wealth. That’s why they are so concerned about falling birth rates - listen to any of them talk about it, it has nothing to do with concern for the planet like any of the rest of us (less demand on resources that we are already depleting, etc), they are concerned about maintaining the current rates of production and labor if the next generations are smaller and smaller. Sure, Vance is talking about it from a “family values” perspective, because that’s a cloak he thinks his base will listen to, but listen to Musk talk about it, or any of the “pro-natalist” movement.

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        That’s the funniest thing. The wealthy have bunkers and all that but don’t have the skills to actually survive.

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          Best part is those bunkers will be filled a handful of physically weak billionaires and money makers surrounded and outnumbered by well trained soldiers, mercenaries and military people. The wealthy owners believe that they hired honourable, loyal dedicated soldiers … but once the lights go out and everyone is on their own, who do you think will want to take over those bunkers?

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            That’s why the billionaires want shock collars on their security squads.

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              As if ex-special forces don’t get anti-interrogation training, oh and lock picking training.

              They really are just a bunch of greedy idiots.

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                Also the collars aren’t immune to simple brute force attacks. A careful angle grinder can nullify it. Do that to the entire security team and now there’s a new warlord in town.

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        But there will be fewer of us to collect, process, and deliver those resources. This means that those of us who are left will be able to command higher wages and better working conditions. (Not high or better enough, mind you, but higher and better.)

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      I mean maybe, that’s a long shot. I also don’t think its worth killing everything currently on the planet that didn’t have a choice in the matter.