Although I have not watched a lot of Hasan videos , I think he is not actually leftist ! He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?

  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Ok but this assumes all sex workers are coerced. Not all of them are.

    Cw

    spoiler

    And I resent the idea that something is like rape. To me, the key aspect of rape is trauma and nonconsent.

    I have plenty of friends that are in sex work and are doing fine and have no trauma. It’s obviously important to ensure people can leave this industry, we need to make sure all sex workers live fulfilling lives, especially considering the increased risk factors of that industry. It’s just as a survivor of rape and someone that has talked to others about this exact issue, I think it’s important to keep an open mind and adapt to what sex workers at large need. Of course, this can only be done with scientific socialism.

    This convos isn’t exactly good for me rn so I’d appreciate it if only one person replies to this comment

    • ZoomeristLeninist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netMEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      yes, i understand that some sex workers are not traumatized, but i disagree that there is sometimes no coercion. under capitalism there will always be economic coercion for the underclasses to work, which is what brings people to sex work. im willing to listen to what sex workers need (and i have) and if thats decriminalization of both sides of the transaction im all for that. but johns are horrible and the act of soliciting prostitution is sexual violence

      im sorry that my comment reminded you of ur trauma. perhaps my approach isnt the best way to address the problem, no matter how disgusting johns are

      • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        yes, i understand that some sex workers are not traumatized, but i disagree that there is sometimes no coercion. under capitalism there will always be economic coercion for the underclasses to work, which is what brings people to sex work. im willing to listen to what sex workers need (and i have) and if thats decriminalization of both sides of the transaction im all for that. but johns are horrible and the act of soliciting prostitution is sexual violence

        cw

        spoiler

        Some people come to sex work for the money. I know people that just love having sex and like that it can be a job for them. Thats sort of the point I’m making, for many sex workers its just another job, and potentially one they enjoy. Trauma is an important aspect of what youre describing. Sex is not inherently traumatic, and neither is being paid poorly for your work (while that is a shitty thing to do). What is traumatic is when something happens that you don’t want to happen. If someone has their arm cut off by a machine, that is just as bad as SV because it creates lingering bodily and mental harm. Do you understand what I’m saying? Sex work is a kind of work, if that work brings you trauma, thats when it becomes like you describe. I don’t like these broad statements like ‘all johns inflict sexual violence’ because I don’t believe that is true in the slightest, and I feel like it belittles what sexual violence is.