I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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      Voting is a power that has been consistently weakened for the past four decades in the United States, and is completely useless in a two party system with two captured parties. Political change has historically been accomplished with money and violence; it is extraordinarily rare for countries to vote themselves out of the slide to fascism.

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      that’s a good point

      I wonder what would happen if the Democrats tried to activate those chronic non-voters, rather than trying to flip those moderate republicans i keep being told are real

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        Removing your support from a party you previously supported is an effort to bring about change. Evidenced by the democrats trying to figure out how to get people to vote for them again.

        I bet you think divorce is a bad thing too.

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          Divorce isn’t something from nothing, so I’m not too sure what that false equivalency is supposed to do for you.

          You cannot expect action from inaction.

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            Its the same type of situation: would you make the best of a bad situation or blow it up? Would you vote for the lesser evil or abstain/vote third party?

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              Voting for the lesser evil is a no brainer considering the threat America faced. In better times, I’d absolutely agree with the ideology.

              Now is not those times.

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            It wasnt a personal reference. The point I’m making is that it tends to be overwhelmingly bad relationships end in divorce, as they should. It would be awful if people were forced to stay in bad situations like that.

            The democrats have a horrible relationship with their party members, and so many chose divorce, rightly so.

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              Yes, I know you still think this is about political parties. It was not then and it certainly is not now. It was about stopping America from becoming the one-party fascist state it has now become.

              You can complain about the Democrats all you want. They are no longer an entity because there is only one legitimate political party in America right now- the one in control of all three branches of government that will never, ever give that up willingly.

              So, again, I hope you got all you wanted out of the divorce.

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            Well the DNC is now forced to either pull their collective head out their ass or destroy themselves in spite. We’ll see how it goes.

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              You actually think the Democratic Party will ever have any real power ever again? Or any party other than the Republican Party?

              You actually think the Republican Party will ever willingly give up power?

              You still think these people give a shit about the law?

              Amazing. Just amazing.

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                  I would like you to find one shred of evidence that I was ever a Democrat or supported their party.

                  Then I would like you to explain why you think I give a fuck who’s fault it is at this point.