or just talk about the games in general. Is Black Mesa better than the original Half-Life? What is the best Half-Life game? Why are the games still so good? How about the post-soviet setting? How about how cool it is that most of the main enemies are cops and troops?
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The creatures from Xen had a right to defend themselves
The first time a fast zombie attacks you in Ravenholm is the scariest thing that’s ever happened to me in a video game.
HL1 > HL2
Half Life 1 & 2 are the most overrated games ever, rivaled only by Metal Gear
why?
I think it was the first fps with a decent physics engine so for over a decade it got treated like the second coming of christ. It was a good game, don’t get me wrong but I don’t think the game was near as meaningful as the engine as far as its impact.
I’d agree on the last part but I’d also claim that both HLs acting as tech demos for their respective engine does make them incredibly important and meaningful as games. Like it all seems sort of trite now downstream of what happened, but I don’t think it would’ve happened if they didn’t do it
They should’ve put melee akin to Dark Messiah in 2 it, it works so good!
I’ve only played Half-Life 2 and it’s good but clearly been Seinfeld-Effected by the industry in the twenty-odd years since release, to the point where I’d feel weird recommending it outside of “it’s very cheap and pretty good but nothing jaw dropping”
Using ladders in half life sometimes can get very annoying.
Hot Take: HL2 is probably one of my favorite games ever, but the time gap between then end of HL1 and the beginning of HL2 feels very much like “our game made too much money and so we had to make up some shit” in a way that is less a continuation and more like an entirely different story.
But HL3 confirmed, its coming, i’m camping outside valve headquarters already.
I played HL2 for the first time when it was free recently. It was fun, definitely dated, but not in a bad way. Valve really cooked with the gravity gun.
I tried playing HL2 once, got to the airboat section near the start and then got so motion sick from it for multiple hours that I have accidentally Pavlovian conditioned myself to never want to try another Half-Life game again
The gun play in HL2 is weak. Without the gravity gun making up for it the rest of the arsenal is lackluster. The pistol has terrible sound design for a gun you are forced to use at anything medium range. Puff puff puff.
Otherwise it has a fun campaign. Drags in a few places with the urgency of the plot getting slowed down by vehicle segments.
The urban combat against the alien overlords and their cop minions as you spearhead a rebellion against them was great, though.
The Pistol sound really bad and it looks like a toy gun
I love HL1 and the expansion packs, and I also love the many mods that the HL community developed over the years. I really dislike how HL2 makes Gordon/You a messiah like figure, and the vehicle sessions suck. Other than that I think HL2 is a really good game with some fun mechanics.
It’s funny to go back to it now after years of player characters that can mantle and slide and so on and find yourself as a little quake guy just vibing out. pingin around the environment like a perfectly capsuloid collider with only ladders and vehicles as your intimate companions
The movement and gunplay are the main parts that feel like it has aged, and not in a bad way. You move so much slower in modern games. Maybe it stands out more in the half life games because you’re a quake guy in tiny realistic corridors
Im old. Got HL1 on a CD ROM IIRC. Amazed the first time I saw a bullet hole in a wall behind where I had shot. That was so revolutionary!
When HL2 came out it was one of the first games I bought on steam. Took the day off work. The dystopian beginning, the cop telling you to ‘pick it up’ as he knocks the can off the garbage. Just so ground breaking. Terrifying. Don’t even get me started on ravenholm lol.
When Alyx came out, again day off work and again a total light year ahead of all video games in terms of content and interaction. The only thing missing is Alyx 2 goddamnit. Gabe I know you’re on lemmy, throw us a bone!
Would be interesting to see gaben on hexbear
I want to believe
I didn’t play the first one when it came out and feel like I kind of missed the boat on it. I grew up on Quake and Quake II and played HL2 at release so I never feel like going back to HL1 like the others
I think you should give HL1 a try. In a lot of ways it’s the culmination of the Quake-style FPS generation, where you’re running around real fast and picking up health packs and have like 10 weapons to choose from. Same level format too, with increasingly intense little baddies leading up to a big unique boss battle.
Still waiting for Trump to issue an executive order mandating a full remaster of Quake II.
“The Strogg, folks. They’re taking the arms, they’re taking the legs, very disrespectful. But we’re sending in the most tremendous drop-pods you’ve ever seen, and we’re gonna clean that whole thing up. You’re going to have so many armor shards you’ll be saying ‘Please no more, we have too many armor shards!’ but we’re going to bring out the big beautiful railgun and shut that whole thing down.”I’ve played through it, technically twice because I got stuck at the end the first time. I just never have the hankering to play it again like I do the others.
Like, I know the early stages of the first two quakes so well and I feel like I could drop into them any time. I just never feel like playing half life 1
