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    Now gently tug on my hair while telling me the only way things have ever meaningfully changed is when physical violence was cast against the right people and I’ll be halfway to not caring you’re all yellow and probably have a Simpsons penis.

  • spujb@lemmy.cafe
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    good post OP hard to believe the first instance of this is from iFunny in 2017

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    Taxpayer funded slave market. The taxpayer feeds them, clothes them, houses them, pays for the guards etc… THEN the elite get to use them for their discount labor.

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        During/after the Civil War, pro-slavery forces were actively looking to models like those used in Hawaii (sugar plantations with “contract” labor) and realizing they could put a shine on slavery while making it more lucrative for themselves. It was all over old newspapers, if anybody read those.

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    Exactly. 13th Amendment, Section 1:

    “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

    It’s not abolishing, it’s just limiting slavery.

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      I’d argue that it doesn’t limit it. The current incarcerated population in the US is 1.3 million. At the very peak of American slavery, the enslaved population was 4.4 million, which is a LOT of people, but you do have to take into consideration that the enslavers were financially responsible for providing food, water, and shelter to their slaves. Now the US taxpayer covers all of that and corporations can profit harder.

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      It’s basically indentured servitude - in that poverty is what now turns people into de facto slaves rather than race - in pretty much the same way as the English “ended slavery” but not really back in the 18th century.

      The thing is, unlike in the US the Brits got rid of indentured servitude more than a century ago, plus in the US poverty and race are tightly couple for afro-Americans because the ultra-Capitalist system in American transformed ex-slavery and the subsequent tail of racist discrimination into poverty and made poverty a dynastic characteristic (in that even after active Racism was weakened, being born poor means a huge probability of being foverver poor so the victimization of Historical Racism was propagated down the generations) so present day indentured servitude in American disproportionately hits the descendants of the slaves whilst indentured servitude in Britain mainly hit the majority ethnic groups in those isles (though I do believe that for example the Irish were much more likely to be victims of it than the English).

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      is called satire, a thing which can and often does come in layers i.e. meta irony and post irony

      not a new thing especially among young people

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      I see that you’re unenlightened, so I shall enlighten you to the glorious cause. Minions have gone into post-ironic territory. They’re funny because they were once near-universally considered cringe and made fun of, so in posting that in an ironic way, it becomes funny to the in-group, but in the process of that we’re right back where we started which is that minions are funny.

      Whereas in postmodern irony, something is meant to be cynically mocked and not taken seriously, and in new sincerity, something is meant to be taken seriously or “unironically”, post-irony combines these two elements by either having something absurd taken seriously or be unclear as to whether something is meant to be ironic.

      So, I am indeed afraid that it is you that may be the boomer after all.

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      The prisoners in the US are legally allowed to be slaves, according to the constitution. Some American would probably explain this better than me, but that’s the gist of it…

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        Yep. The 13th amendment didn’t abolish slavery like we’re taught in schools, but made it so you could be legally enslaved as a punishment for committing crimes. They then just happened to make shit like “walking around at night while black” or “being unemployed and black” crimes that they could imprison you for and make you a slave again.

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        The only exception to forced labor in the american constitution is for prisoners. Our prison system has been heavily based on punishment and not rehabilitation since the 1980s. We have the largest incarcerated population in the entire world by a very long shot. If you get arrested for something and are innocent but awaiting trial (can take 1-2 years) and can’t pay bail you will be in jail for that amount of time. You have to work a job while incarcerated in most cases. If you do get paid, it can be as little as 10 cents an hour and is not exempt from taxes.

        Black people are disproportionately overrepresented in the system despite being just 13% of the population. Black people are more likely than white people to be found guilty and on average get longer sentences than white people for the exact same offence. Things associated with “black behavior” are more heavily criminalized. An example of this is the sentence duration of crack vs cocaine. Crack is more associated with poverty and blackness so it had a much longer minimum sentence than cocaine which is associated more with rich white circles. Basically our prison system unfairly targets people for being poor and a person of color.