I would like to see a game that calculates the distance to the target, the wind speed and direction, and the mechanical accuracy of the rifle, and the adjust the bullet trajectory accordingly. E.g. an AR-15 should have a mechanical accuracy of about 2-3 MOA on average, and usually has a 50/200 zero (e.g., your optic is zeroed at 50 yards, and height over bore means that you’ll hit slightly below your point of aim at less than 50 yards, above your point of aim between 50 and 200 yards, and then below after 200). So you should have to aim, say, about 24" high on a target that’s 400y away, but then your point of impact is anywhere within about a 12" diameter circle. 7.62x39mm in an AK? You get a 25/200 zero, 4 MOA mechanical accuracy, and at 400y you have to aim 46" high.
Oh, and calculate velocity for realistic time to impact, and actual damage; at 600y, a 5.56 is doing to be stopped by pretty light body armor with minimal injury.
Essentially I’d like a game to force people to understand real-world ballistics and performance, and adjust their strategies accordingly.
They also considered thing like the speed of sound, stars in the sky and other stuff i don’t quite remember. I wonder if they simulate bullet drift from the earth spinning.
That’s a real thing at extreme-long-distance shooting, but not really an issue at realistic engagement distances for small arms. E.g., if you were doing a King Of 2 Miles simulation, you’d want to account for it, or an artillery sim, but probably not for infantry engagements.
Does anyone really play Arma, or does one person build a mission, and then everyone fucks around until that person gets frustrated and stop trying to direct anything?
Just go play Operation Harsh Doorstop, it is free (community funded free not microtransaction casino “free”), runs a million times better, has vehicles and support for large maps and is moddable!
(including support for players downloading a server’s mods on connection so players only have to click on a server to try out a new gamemode or mod)
I constantly praise this game and it is because of the crazy potential of it, it’s accessibility and the fact that the foundation is already awesome.
I also want the player to slow down if they get pegged in the legs. If they get hit in the arm your accuracy falls or you have to do it one armed and your accuracy really drops. If you get hit in the chest there should be at least a couple seconds where your stunned or your accuracy drops.
TBH, most of those would simply knock you out of the fight for all practical purposes, except being hit in the chest or back in areas fully covered by armor. A rifle bullet through your shoulder can be fatal quickly without being able to pack the wound, and you won’t be able to use that arm at all if your scapula has been hit. ANY solid hit with a rifle is going to be a very, very bad time for you.
To put it in context, armor only covers the places on your torso where a hit will cause near instant death.
Helldivers 2 has a super interesting damage model. You can really notice it with a sniper rifle against the bots. You can knock off so many parts of their body.
Doesn’t Tarkov model this somewhat correctly ? (Save for the wind not affecting bullets, and the optics zeroing/distance setting being a bit too arcade-y)
I would like to see a game that calculates the distance to the target, the wind speed and direction, and the mechanical accuracy of the rifle, and the adjust the bullet trajectory accordingly. E.g. an AR-15 should have a mechanical accuracy of about 2-3 MOA on average, and usually has a 50/200 zero (e.g., your optic is zeroed at 50 yards, and height over bore means that you’ll hit slightly below your point of aim at less than 50 yards, above your point of aim between 50 and 200 yards, and then below after 200). So you should have to aim, say, about 24" high on a target that’s 400y away, but then your point of impact is anywhere within about a 12" diameter circle. 7.62x39mm in an AK? You get a 25/200 zero, 4 MOA mechanical accuracy, and at 400y you have to aim 46" high.
Oh, and calculate velocity for realistic time to impact, and actual damage; at 600y, a 5.56 is doing to be stopped by pretty light body armor with minimal injury.
Essentially I’d like a game to force people to understand real-world ballistics and performance, and adjust their strategies accordingly.
Arma 3 did this like 10 years ago.
They also considered thing like the speed of sound, stars in the sky and other stuff i don’t quite remember. I wonder if they simulate bullet drift from the earth spinning.
That’s a real thing at extreme-long-distance shooting, but not really an issue at realistic engagement distances for small arms. E.g., if you were doing a King Of 2 Miles simulation, you’d want to account for it, or an artillery sim, but probably not for infantry engagements.
Just play Arma with Ace installed. Already has all that and more
Does anyone really play Arma, or does one person build a mission, and then everyone fucks around until that person gets frustrated and stop trying to direct anything?
Just go play Operation Harsh Doorstop, it is free (community funded free not microtransaction casino “free”), runs a million times better, has vehicles and support for large maps and is moddable!
(including support for players downloading a server’s mods on connection so players only have to click on a server to try out a new gamemode or mod)
I constantly praise this game and it is because of the crazy potential of it, it’s accessibility and the fact that the foundation is already awesome.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/736590/Operation_Harsh_Doorstop/
Or check out Easy Red 2 for realistic WW2 battles and easy and useful controls for giving orders to AI teammates.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1324780/Easy_Red_2
(it it is usually around $9)
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Hotdogs horseshoes and handgrenades does all of this.
I also want the player to slow down if they get pegged in the legs. If they get hit in the arm your accuracy falls or you have to do it one armed and your accuracy really drops. If you get hit in the chest there should be at least a couple seconds where your stunned or your accuracy drops.
TBH, most of those would simply knock you out of the fight for all practical purposes, except being hit in the chest or back in areas fully covered by armor. A rifle bullet through your shoulder can be fatal quickly without being able to pack the wound, and you won’t be able to use that arm at all if your scapula has been hit. ANY solid hit with a rifle is going to be a very, very bad time for you.
To put it in context, armor only covers the places on your torso where a hit will cause near instant death.
Well that’s kind of what I want. Although unfortunately this has been tried to be accomplished in the past and it was non-viable.
Like I want it to be realistic… But 98% of gamers don’t
Oddly enough Hell Divers 2 does this…which nobody would call realistic in any other way.
Helldivers 2 has a super interesting damage model. You can really notice it with a sniper rifle against the bots. You can knock off so many parts of their body.
Doesn’t Tarkov model this somewhat correctly ? (Save for the wind not affecting bullets, and the optics zeroing/distance setting being a bit too arcade-y)
Nah the hackers don’t follow these rules