• forrgott@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    You hate “what women are turned into”???

    What a pathetic excuse. Shameful, even.

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      2 days ago

      Unfortunately, the homogenization of women works against them when they’re all conditioned to be proud consumers living vicariously through those richer than them.

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        2 days ago

        Willfully conditioning yourself to be special and small minded is an act of weakness. Your open jealousy of the wealth of others reeks of fear and shame. If all you desire is power over another, you sacrifice any power over yourself. There is no strength in desiring to cause harm, and that is the only thing you will find on this path.

        What do you have to offer other than malice?

        Edit: Your assumption that women only want riches and wealth proves that your views are rooted in hatred of capitalism. Oops.

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          2 days ago

          🥱

          Yeah, no. You might want to look into a ‘crab mentality’ and see how much you and your peers exhibit it.

          Gonna block you now.

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            There you go guys; if you don’t intentionally harm your peers, you’re just a crab!

            Sigh. I know I went a wee bit overboard, but I can’t stand incel mentality. But still, bludgeoning him with words was clearly a failure on my part.

            Anybody have advice on better approach to that side? I’m all ears…

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              David McRaney has some really good content on this topic. I recommend listening to his podcast episode called How Minds Change, about deep canvasing. He has a whole book by the same name, if you want to read more about it.

              Edit: I should summarise the key points I’ve taken from consuming his content:

              • Facts and figures don’t change minds, stories people can relate to are much more effective
              • Changing minds can take a lot of time
              • An approach known to have a decent success rate is to have a calm discussion where both people are trying to understand each other and find some common ground while following the steps of deep canvasing

              Having said all that, it’s best in 1 to 1 conversations. Not sure how effective you can be on the internet, but I do think it’s best to try to show understanding of other peoples views and steel man their arguments (opposite of straw man) while sharing your own views.

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                Thank you for the reminder. A few months back there was an article posted that made the argument that acting with compassion, as challenging as that might seem at times, is truly the only tactic that has been proven in any way effective.

                Clearly, I did not keep that in mind.

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      Yes, I do hate when people have become so bitter with the world that they lash out at everyone and everything they touch. It happens to men too, and there’s absolutely no shame in hating to see it happen to good people.

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        Explaining your reasoning for your prejudice doesn’t help. Not to mention the clear implication that all women are corrupted, but not all men. Never occurred to you to look at people as distinct individuals? Maybe don’t punish a person for somebody else’s sins.