Summary

Vice President JD Vance claimed that Donald Trump’s policies will lower grocery prices, but he failed to provide details.

Instead, Vance emphasized vague goals like increasing capital investment and job creation.

Meanwhile, Trump’s recent tariff threats, including a 25% increase on Colombian coffee imports, have driven coffee prices higher, exacerbating grocery costs.

Critics note Trump’s shifting narrative, as he now admits it is “hard to bring things down once they’re up.”

Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      51
      ·
      3 days ago

      Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

      FFS. How many times were the Democrats and others declared “elitist” and “out of touch” when they pointed to ACTUAL indicators of a good economy under Biden?

      Now, when prices jump, they are telling people to drink gawdawful shit like Taster’s Choice? Gosh, that doesn’t sound like mansplaining or paternalistic or elitist or all the other things I was told the Democrats supposedly were being…

      I bet that fucker Kilmeade who I’m sure is being paid millions per year to be stupid on television is not going to be drinking shitty coffee himself. Everyone else can eat cake, though.

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        3 days ago

        Not all instant coffee is terrible. There’s a wide variety in quality there just like with full beans.

        Also keep in mind that the average American is used to shit like Folger’s in a Mr. Coffee, a Keurig K-cup, or the burnt espresso from Starbucks.

        • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          3 days ago

          So you’re saying instant is good when you’re comparing it to fecal soup? Not really selling it, here.

          • Zammy95@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            2 days ago

            There totally is good instant coffee!

            Made with good beans, that need to be imported fresh. So… Probably even more expensive, since it’s those good beans, plus some additional processing for the novelty/longevity…

            • teft@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              2 days ago

              Yep. Here in colombia the instant coffee is much more popular and it tastes exactly the same as normal brewed coffee (as long as you buy a good brand).

            • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              2 days ago

              Can you (or others) please provide a couple examples of good instant? I am completely serious. I have a trip coming up where the coffee might be terrible or non-existent. I’d like to bring some [quality] instant just in case.

              • Zammy95@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                2 days ago

                The good instant espressos I’ve had were typically directly from the roaster. I’m a big fan of Black and White roasters out of North Carolina, and they have good instant.

                I also have had really good instant from a site called loveluminous, but they’re a bit strange. It’s a drop store, so you can only order on Fridays, and you have to sign up to get a code sent to you.

                Anyway, look for independent roasters of moderate size, you never know what some of them may carry.

              • Empricorn@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                2 days ago

                The Starbucks Via Instant Coffee packets are decent and very convenient. Also, coffee expert James Hoffman reviews easily-available instant coffees for when you have absolutely nothing but hot water:

                https://youtu.be/8cIqLvJz8VM

                • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  2 days ago

                  Yes, I already have some SB and will likely bring it, but I was hoping for other suggestions. I appreciate your link to Mr Hoffman and I enjoyed the video. Ultimately, I found a brand called Black Coffee Roasting Company. I’ll bring those and the SB on the trip. Thank you again.

                  BTW, I normally drink Dillanos. Their double-French roast is one of the best coffees I’ve had. I don’t drink SB much anymore.

                  • Empricorn@feddit.nl
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    Glad it helped. Thanks for the info about Dillanos, I’m intrigued and think I’ll try their Double Dark roast. Let us know how the Black Coffee Roasting Company instant is!

          • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            3 days ago

            That’s not at all what I’m saying.

            I swear no one on the internet has any reading comprehension skills anymore. Either that or everyone purposely assumes the worst interpretation of everything because they want to talk shit.

            I was saying that just like regular beans, there are a variety of instant options as well on the market. Just because Walmart stocks terrible options, that doesn’t mean there aren’t others available. We’re not talking about the pompous assholes that can’t stop talking about their home espresso machine, fancy grinding habits, magical aero press, or how to properly do a pour over.

            Most people just use the cheap stuff, the quick K-cup, or the Starbucks drive thru on the way to work because THEY DON’T GIVE A FUCK, they just want their caffeine. So that’s what you need to compare against.

            • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              Mate, I didn’t have anything more useful to say, so I went something funny. Your last sentence did kinda come across as “these swill-drinking bastards can’t recognize good coffee anyway,” but I apologize if I stressed you out or hit a nerve. If it seems I put no effort into reading/replying to your comment, it’s because I didn’t. Have a good day, bud.

              • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                2 days ago

                Where did I say Starbucks didn’t use beans? I’ll wait…

                I said Starbucks burns their shit. It’s the McDonald’s of coffee. Speed, quantity, and consistency across tens of thousands of locations worldwide at the lowest cost possible; quality is not a primary factor. It’s why their business is focused around hiding the crap coffee with milk and syrup.

        • Empricorn@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          Not all instant coffee is terrible. There’s a wide variety in quality there just like with full beans.

          That’s true. Consumers have more choices and better options than in the past. But comparing it to pretty much any brand whole bean, ground fresh and properly extracted, absolutely not. No comparison. I would take Starbucks, Keurig (there’s a ton of varieties, many decent), or Folgers any day over an instant…

    • teft@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      Instant coffee isn’t shamed here in colombia. It’s actually the most popular way to drink it. It’s prepared extra sweet with no milk and they call it tinto.

      • GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        That’s great and all, but taking away an option and saying “the other option is good so why bother getting upset about it” is minimalizing the core issue. International tariffs are going to reduce consumer options and artificially raise prices.

        That’s totally ignoring the ethical sourcing issues with coffee as well. Specialty coffee companies have been working directly with growers in countries like Colombia, Peru, Uganda, Indonesia, etc. to give them fair wages and to combat monopoly pricing in the industry. I’ve spent $100 on a drum roaster to be able to buy green coffee from responsible companies that pay farmers a living wage. In the end, my home-roasted coffee costs less per pound than Great Value brand pre-ground coffee from Walmart. So now if buying green coffee gets too expensive, I’m expected to go from roasting for my own taste preference, grinding fresh beans, and brewing espresso…to instant coffee. Which in the United States is almost universally bitter dark roasted coffee with no regionally distinct tastes.

      • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        Interesting. I don’t hate instant coffee, but never really buy it either except for the occasional tiny jar of decaf to keep on hand if Grandma visits (that is her jam lol).

        The Simpsons reference was more toward the “cheaper alternatives” mentioned in the same quote, though.

        • AA5B@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          I just bought some, but only as an ingredient for yogurt and bread. Maybe a bbq rub

    • ladicius@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Instant coffee which is made from instant and not from coffee?

      Those maga dead brains really know how to solve problems.

      • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        I like different coffee for different purposes. Instant coffee is mostly made from commodity coffee and blends in Robusta (which I don’t like, personally).

        That said, in a pinch, or if I can’t be bothered with the whole shebang of a pour over or espresso. Mix in a little milk and sweetener and it’s quite enjoyable.

        That all being said, this is some mega MAGA copium they’re pumping out.