Hexbears leaning into imperialist chauvinism when the empire goes after a country they don’t like? Wild, not okay
It would be one of the greatest political opportunities on this continent in a long time if this happened. The Canadian Nazis everyone here hates, rightly, and which ppl have also apparently decided everyone in Canada (including the indigenous peoples stuck under the setter-colonial system of “Canada”) deserves some kind of ontological punishment for, I guess, are the people the US is gonna put in power or at least use to repress any movement that could resist this. Omg I know, I’m really doing “not all Canadians” but fuck, the imperial relationship does make us do the strangest things. Sometimes a reactionary power can transform into a revolutionary one in the right context. Even the Redditors talking about how willing they are to die “for their country” would have to decide quickly how to navigate this situation and how they actually feel about “their country” when the existing government probably immediately collaborates with the Americans to hand over the country
There is no progressive way to “put on the American trucker hat” and take pleasure in the destruction of yet another country’s (at least kinda existing)-sovereignty before the empire’s military. This “joke” is only something Americans can even do lol
Im actually fully in agreement. Of course, the idea of the USA annexing Canada is laughable right now, but if you entertain it for a moment… it could shatter the entire Western order. Not because Canada could resist the USA, but because it would break the very foundations many people believe the Western world is built upon.
Even a relatively bloodless annexation has massive potential to radicalize the masses within the imperial core.
The illusion of Western liberal rules-based order was already shattered when the US confiscated $300 billion of Russia’s foreign reserves in 2022.
Everyone back then said “the trust of the dollar has been broken”, nobody’s going to trust the US again. That’s completely correct, and what has been unveiled instead is that US imperialism is never run on “trust” or “rules”, but on coercion.
The dollar hegemony remains unbroken because there is no alternative to the dollar system, and as long as there is no alternative and challenge to it (to be fair, the Europeans tried, and look how the US properly disciplined the EU), everyone will have to play by the rules set by the US. There is no Soviet Union to save us this time.
The illusion of Western liberal rules-based order was already shattered when the US confiscated $300 billion of Russia’s foreign reserves in 2022.
Most people I know who aren’t leftists don’t see it that way. They’ve been brainwashed into thinking that Russia is some uniquely evil antagonist to the supposed rules based international order. It’s really easy to provide counter-examples but they’ve also been conditioned to buy into imperialist thought relatively uncritically as long as it’s a liberal eurocentric imperialism. After all, the US ruling class are just an even more self-righteous flavor of the european ruling class.
it could shatter the entire Western order. Not because Canada could resist the USA, but because it would break the very foundations many people believe the Western world is built upon.
Yes. The primary argument in favor of NATO and US imperialism in the Eastern Europe is “protection”. When the US becomes the invader of a Western country, this facade breaks.
Oh yus, it would be fucking wild lmao. It would certainly be a great opportunity for us, which is probably why they won’t do it anyway…
Ofc like you said, there’s no way Canada is going to be able to oppose the US militarily, in the conventional way at least, but they might get some guerilla movements I hope?
Am rly unsure how this will play out if he actually means it seriously as a policy and the other stewards of the empire go along with it
Cuz if they are no longer satisfied with the imperial-partner relationship with Canada and want actual de jure control over the country, which is quite rare in the neocolonial era, it would be even more overtly imperialistic than American involvement in Europe. The European states aren’t US states at least lol. Maybe they could get Canada to do it through economic force (would this be a first? Annexation via sanctions I mean) but in the context of all the other shit he’s talking about use of military force I don’t rly think we should rule it out on the basis of him saying he won’t use military force in this instance. All this shit seems reckless as hell from their perspective but maybe they do have some kind of new grand plan to stop American imperial decline, if we accept this is even possibly going to happen I don’t think we can rule very much out at this point
I think full military engagement is extremely unlikely though ofc
Just imagining lib Canadians finding out really fast how it feels to be on the other side of imperialism and having to figure out mass politics lol
Critical support (all uncritical support is unprincipled) to the Albertan protracted people’s war . Nah hehe, tbh I donut know enough about Canadian politics to even begin to know what that would look like…
Exactly. The chance of Marines storming Alberta is like 0…and one has to assume some higher ups would be aware of all the implictions a US annexation of Canada would have. But who knows…
Its uhhhhh getting better seemingly. This forum remains quite brainwormed but I think some of the ideological struggling of the last few months has had a good effect even if the site is still very white and American :/
It’s still so far ahead of the vast majority of spaces on the English-speaking internet at least
Never thought I would have to say this for
but…
Hexbears leaning into imperialist chauvinism when the empire goes after a country they don’t like? Wild, not okay
It would be one of the greatest political opportunities on this continent in a long time if this happened. The Canadian Nazis everyone here hates, rightly, and which ppl have also apparently decided everyone in Canada (including the indigenous peoples stuck under the setter-colonial system of “Canada”) deserves some kind of ontological punishment for, I guess, are the people the US is gonna put in power or at least use to repress any movement that could resist this. Omg I know, I’m really doing “not all Canadians” but fuck, the imperial relationship does make us do the strangest things. Sometimes a reactionary power can transform into a revolutionary one in the right context. Even the Redditors talking about how willing they are to die “for their country” would have to decide quickly how to navigate this situation and how they actually feel about “their country” when the existing government probably immediately collaborates with the Americans to hand over the country
There is no progressive way to “put on the American trucker hat” and take pleasure in the destruction of yet another country’s (at least kinda existing)-sovereignty before the empire’s military. This “joke” is only something Americans can even do lol
Im actually fully in agreement. Of course, the idea of the USA annexing Canada is laughable right now, but if you entertain it for a moment… it could shatter the entire Western order. Not because Canada could resist the USA, but because it would break the very foundations many people believe the Western world is built upon.
Even a relatively bloodless annexation has massive potential to radicalize the masses within the imperial core.
The illusion of Western liberal rules-based order was already shattered when the US confiscated $300 billion of Russia’s foreign reserves in 2022.
Everyone back then said “the trust of the dollar has been broken”, nobody’s going to trust the US again. That’s completely correct, and what has been unveiled instead is that US imperialism is never run on “trust” or “rules”, but on coercion.
So, guess what, nearly three years later, the foreign treasury holdings in the US has reached an all-time peak in 2024 at $8.5 trillion! Despite the blatant “stealing” of Russia’s foreign reserves, foreign countries still continue to buy US treasuries like it is the most precious asset in the world.
The dollar hegemony remains unbroken because there is no alternative to the dollar system, and as long as there is no alternative and challenge to it (to be fair, the Europeans tried, and look how the US properly disciplined the EU), everyone will have to play by the rules set by the US. There is no Soviet Union to save us this time.
Most people I know who aren’t leftists don’t see it that way. They’ve been brainwashed into thinking that Russia is some uniquely evil antagonist to the supposed rules based international order. It’s really easy to provide counter-examples but they’ve also been conditioned to buy into imperialist thought relatively uncritically as long as it’s a liberal eurocentric imperialism. After all, the US ruling class are just an even more self-righteous flavor of the european ruling class.
Yeahh, you’re right ofc, anyone who was paying attention already saw through this lol
But it does make you pay attention when the US invades your country which would be new for many/most of the imperial core residents of
Yes. The primary argument in favor of NATO and US imperialism in the Eastern Europe is “protection”. When the US becomes the invader of a Western country, this facade breaks.
Oh yus, it would be fucking wild lmao. It would certainly be a great opportunity for us, which is probably why they won’t do it anyway…
Ofc like you said, there’s no way Canada is going to be able to oppose the US militarily, in the conventional way at least, but they might get some guerilla movements I hope?
Trump literally said that he will not use military force, but economic force, to annex Canada, and there is nothing Canada can do about it if the US really wants to.
What you’ll see is Canada folding under sanctions just like the Europeans did.
Am rly unsure how this will play out if he actually means it seriously as a policy and the other stewards of the empire go along with it
Cuz if they are no longer satisfied with the imperial-partner relationship with Canada and want actual de jure control over the country, which is quite rare in the neocolonial era, it would be even more overtly imperialistic than American involvement in Europe. The European states aren’t US states at least lol. Maybe they could get Canada to do it through economic force (would this be a first? Annexation via sanctions I mean) but in the context of all the other shit he’s talking about use of military force I don’t rly think we should rule it out on the basis of him saying he won’t use military force in this instance. All this shit seems reckless as hell from their perspective but maybe they do have some kind of new grand plan to stop American imperial decline, if we accept this is even possibly going to happen I don’t think we can rule very much out at this point
I think full military engagement is extremely unlikely though ofc
Just imagining lib Canadians finding out really fast how it feels to be on the other side of imperialism and having to figure out mass politics lol
Critical support (all uncritical support is unprincipled) to the Albertan protracted people’s war
. Nah hehe, tbh I donut know enough about Canadian politics to even begin to know what that would look like…
Exactly. The chance of Marines storming Alberta is like 0…and one has to assume some higher ups would be aware of all the implictions a US annexation of Canada would have. But who knows…
I mean to be fair often those are their true colors lol.
Its uhhhhh getting better seemingly. This forum remains quite brainwormed but I think some of the ideological struggling of the last few months has had a good effect even if the site is still very white and American :/
It’s still so far ahead of the vast majority of spaces on the English-speaking internet at least
Yeah. It’s really bleakly depressing, isn’t it?