• SamuelRJankis@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 days ago

    Can you elaborate how you voting for the Liberals instead of NDP or really anyone else is going to impact this mathematically:

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      2 days ago

      Because

      a) The numbers may change between now and the election, b) even if the conservatives win, there’s a chance to keep it from being a majority government, c) voting for a candidate in my riding that has zero chance to win will not make a chance, whereas by voting Lib I support a candidate that is more aligned with my views than the conservatives, and d) despite what you seem to be advocating with your rhetoric, I won’t give in to defeatism.

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        A & B - I’m talking about the current circumstances and how as a progressive there’s never been a better chance in recent times to vote NDP if you don’t want “waste” a vote. There can be a 20 extra seat swing coming purely from the Conservatives to the Liberals and they still have majority by 34 seats.

        C & D - I don’t understand how voting for someone that lied about something as big as Voting reform is suppose to inspire optimism. The Liberals is just better than the Conservatives, they’ve never been been a good party. Even if the Liberals won the next election most Canadian will still be worse off just not as bad.

        This whole I’m not the bad guy therefore I’m the good guy rhetoric is deplorable.

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          A & B: you assume that voting NDP would swing the votes from liberal to them. That. Is. Not. The. Case. In. My. Riding. I’m in a riding with so close a race historically that any vote other that liberal just guarantees a conservative seat. And I’m not going to take any action that gives the conservatives another seat.

          I don’t understand how voting for someone that lied about something as big as Voting reform is suppose to inspire optimism.

          I’m not voting for the party leader. I’m voting for my riding’s candidate.

          Even if the Liberals won the next election most Canadian will still be worse off just not as bad.

          “Never let perfect be the enemy of good enough.” In your words, I’m voting for “less bad”.

          • SamuelRJankis@lemmy.worldOP
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            2 days ago

            I’m not voting for the party leader. I’m voting for my riding’s candidate.

            I take it you’re not much of a believer in vote whipping.

            Things are going so poorly that the Conservatives is overwhelmingly going to win the next election. If that’s good enough for you I can see why you’re completely fixed on your support for the Liberals.

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              They are literally trying to stop the Conservatives winning a seat in their riding.

              Your argument was “Liberals can’t win so vote NDP”, if they are in a riding that Liberals can win they should absolutely do what they can to prevent a Conservative majority.

              I just hope Liberal voters return the favour in ridings where NDP are most likely to beat the Conservative candidate.