Bookings spiked by 1,200 percent post-election, and IUD signups more than octupled.

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      Okay, so what does that have to do with people getting vasectomies? If someone doesn’t want to have children, what does it matter to them if someone else chooses to, specifically if they’re not from the same country?

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        Do you believe in your ideals? Do you want them to be passed on to another generation? If the answer to these questions is no, then I fully support your decision to remove yourselves from the gene pool.

        And now we’ve circled back completely to the start of this comment chain. Feel free to read it again start to finish if you’re still confused.

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          Do you believe in your ideals? Do you want them to be passed on to another generation? If the answer to these questions is no, then I fully support your decision to remove yourselves from the gene pool.

          What if your answer is yes, and you want to pass on your ideals to the next generation. Why does having a vasectomy change that? Can someone not pass their ideas on to their adopted children, or their nieces and nephews? Did Martin Luther King Jr. only pass his ideals onto his children, or did he spread his message to the people of both the US and the world? What does people getting vasectomies and people moving to their country change their ability to have ideals and show them to the world? I didn’t teach my kids to be kind to others, or to treat people with respect, by telling them: I did it by showing them those actions, and others see those as well, and it spreads.

          Again, how does a vasectomy change your ability to pass on ideals?

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              You haven’t been in a real conversation about this, have you? I understand, we’re all in echo chambers of varying sizes. I noticed you also didn’t say ‘where’ which was my original question. I think you’re a little younger than I initially clocked you, so I’ll ask this carefully:

              People move to your country; what does that have to do with having a vasectomy?

              You’ve said passing on ideals, but you haven’t explained the connection. The more people around me the more people I can pass my ideals onto – why would more people decrease that ability, and why would getting a vasectomy stop it, either?

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                I’m just not super interested in people so hellbent on ideological purity that they’ll ignore the most basic mechanics of the world we live in.

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                  I’m just not super interested in people so hellbent on ideological purity that they’ll ignore the most basic mechanics of the world we live in.

                  So why are you concerned about people getting vasectomies? Why does that mean they cannot also put their ideals out into the world?

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                    Concerned? Hell no! I fully support it.

                    If you’re stupid enough to fall for this asinine bullshit, we definitely don’t want you reproducing.