• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I feel like every law I see coming out of Australia is just telling their citizens they’re not allowed to do something else mundane. All while the government services get worse, and the corrupt become more entrenched.

    What a shithole.

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      9 hours ago

      Like what?

      Often the things that seem mundane actually aren’t

      Like vaping is just tobacco 2.0… and we don’t need everyone to have easy access to guns (especially not kids). Networks like Facebook are so unmoderated at the moment they should be held to account.

      Asbestos and engineered stone? Enough said

      And that’s mainly everything I can think of that’s banned that I can think of…

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        6 hours ago

        Like vaping is just tobacco 2.0

        What is this, govern me like a strict old nan?

        Is dancing allowed down there as well or is it a gateway to thievery or something?

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          Vaping companies like Vape4life were writing petitions on Facebook arguing that Vaping was great to help smokers stop smoking.

          Meanwhile, the same dodgy companies were selling vapes to 10 year olds online (they had NOTHING in place to stop underage people buying them). What possible health use could underage people have for vapes?

          Meanwhile, every vaping fuckwit around was smoking vapes illegally on trains and in heavily populated public areas. And every asshole (including my ex housemate) was vaping inside (I literally told her not to. I want to do high altitude mountaineering in the future so I need my lungs. And she was getting super cheap rent). When you tell them to do it outside, they always say “vaping is just water, it’s perfectly safe”.

          If you want to “eat the rich”, you should be telling Smoking companies to fuck off. They’re lying to their userbase, whilst their exec’s become wealthy millionaires. And when their clients get cancer (or the people around them get cancer), they run down the clock on the lawsuit so they don’t lose any money.

          Fuck Tabacco and cigarette companies.

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            2 hours ago

            Also, I had some absolute wanker the other day throw a lit cigerette on my nature strip (I was amazed, and I was sitting in the car), on a hot day. I’m lucky I saw him do it and he didn’t start a grass fire (and yet, if one was started, he’d be responsible, not the tobacco company). Everyone in cigarette companies knows this happens and could provide a way to extinguish them in the box, but instead, they know people are chucking them on the ground

            i have attached the photo of the guy (if anyone in Victoria happens to recognise him)

            And it is super common for people to throw cigarettes out of their car, leave them on the ground, or throw their vape cartridges on the ground. Smokers and Cigerette companies had EVERY opportunity to be respectful. There might be some respectful ones, but, there are plenty who aren’t

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          6 hours ago

          The vaping industry likes to argue that they are safer than other tobacco products, and don’t deserve to be regulated the same way, but the evidence suggests otherwise. It’s a fine example of why we should be happy that regulations exist at all.

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            No part of my argument had anything to do with safety or health.

            A person’s autonomy is their business. Leave them well alone. Their life, their path.

            Or I guess alcohol doesn’t have a purpose then, and we can get rid of it too?

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              The fact is it impacts everyone else, the public services will have to deal with the fall out.

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              4 hours ago

              Everyone is really concerned, GHiLA. We think you might have an addiction. But we’re here to help. Please remember the bans are only for under 18s. You have to remember. Look at your wife, she’s dying of… asphyxiation or something. Because you keep hotboxing the bedroom.

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                Oh I’ve got like three at least, that I know about.

                You guys are one of them.

                uwu

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          For real. A whole fucking country infantilizing themselves. Pathetic to see bootlicking at this level.

          And it’s not even a good government. I guess I could empathize, if the government was not corrupt and delivering fantastic quality services. But they’re shitting on these people, and telling them to say thank you for it.

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            32 minutes ago

            Wow. You’re such a rebel. /s

            If you want to fight authority, start by fighting against the rich assholes causing 30% of stonemasons (and others) to get silicosis. The guys making the money aren’t the ones getting sick. Help them live long enough to get justice.

            Fight against the companies and rich assholes who are still giving lots of people cancer by using asbestos products to save money (and are putting asbestos in products and not declaring it). The people manufacturing this shit are getting rich, not the people installing it (or who have it installed)

            And fight back by helping people live longer, so they can get justice against tabacco companies for lying to them and making shitty claims like claiming menthol cigerettes are medicinal. Companies like Vape4lyf had nothing in place to prevent sales of vapes to kids whilst starting petitions claiming they were needed for quitting smoking (10 year olds aren’t quitting). Every shitty vape company out there is basically advertising their products as safe

            Do you think the execs give a shit if your kid dies? Nope, they have lawyers on retainer, and they’ve become increasingly good at fighting any lawsuits and running down the clock. Do you think they give a shit if the people around other smokers die from second hand smoke? Nope, because you can’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt a specific company caused an issue. People are suffering.

            Nothing says “badass” like a guy who is willing to fondle the balls of the marlboro man whilst he lies to you and dodges responsibility. Vaping is Tabacco 2.0. They’re making the exact same claims they did in the past for other products.

            I’d suggest you grow a pair and stand up for people. That takes courage. It’s not bootlicking. What you’re doing is bending over for millionaires who give no fucks about you, and defending them