• crapwittyname@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    Lol, right. So let’s break down this down since Communism has miserably failed every test and attempt it’s attempt at being used …

    Interesting you should bring this up, because capitalism has failed every time, too. Communism has been tried, what three times? And capitalism about 300. So communism is winning on this front, in fact it’s 100 times more successful by comparison.

    Yes, because capitalism is the dominant power structure in the world, and communism is one of its anathemas, communism has been suppressed and demonised at every opportunity. This is a historical fact. I don’t know if communism would work under different circumstances, but I’m certain it can’t work under the circumstances in which we have found ourselves since the second world war, circumstances which are hostile to communism. There’s a good chance that had it gone the other way, I would be here claiming communism is the root cause of most societal problems.
    Capitalism is not intrinsically better than communism when you count oppression and unnecessary suffering and death as the metric.
    Stanning for the status quo while we descend into late stage capitalism and people are being stripped of their economic and social freedoms like never before is a pretty awful stance. Look around you, the world is fucked. And the world is capitalist. The system does not work. Unless you’re a billionaire, you should have quite a lot to complain about.

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      Well if you’re describing the difference between social structures breaking down for different reasons which don’t solely apply to socioeconomics anyway. It’s one of the other. You’re hopes and dreams are that Communist ideals are more appropriate for the masses in general, but like I’m saying, the general principles of Capitalism aren’t what you’re describing, you’re specifically describing what you see right now in the US. You have a disconnect there you’re failing to reckon with.

      I’d also state Communism has been tried a dozen times with a faster time to failure than capitalism.

      Either way, the course humanity is on now is going to be something different if anyone is going to survive. Sure as shit won’t be Communism though.

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        Two things. First, I’m not pro-communist. I’m anti capitalist. There’s a subtle but really important difference. I can be against one system without being for another.

        Secondly, I am able to apply the failings of capitalism to the system as a whole, by looking at its roots. I’m not from the USA and I’m not only looking at US capitalism. Capitalism is inherently exploitative, favouring people who own interest-accruing property over people who work. It favours the amassing of wealth, which necessarily comes at the cost of other people’s well-being and success. We see the outcome of this is that the people who are most rewarded by the system are the most inhumane, to the point where the top earners are outright sociopaths. The people who suffer are those who just try to get along. All of this is universal across all countries and interpretations of capitalism. The system rewards greed and unscrupulousness, and punishes compassion. It’s destructive at this stage because it is being allowed to run rampant, unchecked by any common sense. It’s ok in small doses, but the neoliberal consensus is global.