• Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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        4 days ago

        Sometimes you’re going to lose no matter what you do.

        Are you saying Donald Trump was unbeatable in 2024? Nothing Dems did would’ve mattered?

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            3 days ago

            Probably.

            I always believe that a candidate of the genuine left, pushing things most people want and need — universal health care, breaking up giant corporations, enthusiastic tax increases for billionaires, complete medical and student debt forgiveness, patching the pathetic safety net that barely exists for the unemployed, the sick, the disabled, etc— would win by two touchdowns. But I don’t know who that candidate would’ve been in 2024, and the question is moot because Democrats would never nominate a leftist.

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              2 days ago

              As great as that candidate would be, they wouldn’t accomplish any of that. We need to move the house and senate to the left before any president like that would actually make a difference.

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        4 days ago

        Sometimes. Not this time. Harris didn’t come within a thousand miles of running a campaign that would support that.

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            3 days ago

            That’s why you have real primaries. I’d bet Wallz could have won at the top of the ticket. Any Democrat with a scrap of charisma and an anti-establishment vibe could have done it. It was Harris’s ties to Biden that did her in more than anything else.

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              2 days ago

              Did you watch the VP debate? Walz could never have pulled it off. Nobody could have, short of maybe someone like John Stewart. The people wanted lies, not the truth.

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                2 days ago

                I think Walz in a Walz campaign and Walz in a Harris campaign are two very different things. Walz in that debate was playing the message discipline game and pulling his punches because of it