Summary

Donald Trump and his team are attacking media outlets like Politico and The New York Times for reporting that his 2024 election victory over Kamala Harris was narrow, not a “landslide.”

Trump won by 1.6 points and failed to secure a majority of the popular vote, a smaller margin than Hillary Clinton’s over him in 2016.

Despite these facts, Trump and his allies continue to tout his win as “historic” and “dominant,” aiming to bolster his political mandate amid criticisms that his victory was less decisive than claimed.

  • Lung@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Honestly hilarious level of QQ. The election wasn’t rigged. He won by almost 100 electoral college votes. He had the most popular votes, by 2.5 million people, roughly 50%. Republicans swept House, Senate, and Governors

    Elections in the USA are always pretty close, that’s how it works. But this victory is a complete and total one with no real room for doubt

    You may not like it, but those are the facts. Don’t mimic the sad boy GOP crying “election fraud” — the people voted. Yes, that means there are people in this country that disagree with you and don’t trust the direction of the Democrats. You might call them brainwashed, bigoted, transphobic, or religious extremists, but they get to voice their desires anyway. Society is a push and pull between different value systems, and imagining half the country is “evil” will only cause more harm

    Nothing is going to stop the transition. Buckle up, and try harder next time. Maybe the Dems will actually let a primary happen rather than choosing your leader for you

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      That “almost 100 electoral college votes” was conditional on as little as 200k total votes across three states contributing 44 EC votes, in all of which had at most a 2% lead. Anyone who actually thinks he won by a significant margin is an idiot.

      Wisconsin (10): +30k / 0.9%
      Pennsylvania (19): +81k / 1.7%
      Michigan (15): +80k / 1.4%

      Now regarding election fraud–not that the end result would change given how much more significant his leads in other states were, but playing devil’s advocate, getting 90k Harris votes thrown out in any one of those states could actually have made a difference for the state in question.

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        not that the end result would change

        Who fucking cares though? If I get caught cheating on an exam, it doesn’t matter if I would have passed anyway, does it?

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          That’s a false equivalence.

          If someone got caught cheating on an exam, there’s undeniable proof that they cheated. They should be punished accordingly.

          If someone won student union presidency by 100 votes, and it turns out that 70 opposition votes were “lost,” it doesn’t immediately change anything. You can’t say for certain whether the winning candidate had anything to do with that vote manipulation since we have the whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing that society is built on. Investigations should still take place and guilty parties should face consequences, but there’s nothing we can do to punish the winning candidate if it turns out that basketball club unilaterally acted to suppress votes because they thought they would be given a bigger budget under that candidate.

          The unfortunate reality is that Trump would just be able to walk away without consequences if there was vote manipulation. Unless he was stupid enough to order his MAGA cult into manipulating or suppressing Democrat votes directly, his lawyers would just claim it was the unsanctioned actions of a few individuals.

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      Yeah I think you’re pretty fucking far off in claiming that pointing out a couple of facts about the outcome being closer than he says = raging about ElEcTiOn FrAUd