By “skilled immigrants” I mean people with advance degrees (PhD, MD, …) holding all types of highly technical and managerial positions.

Asking this because skilled immigrants, at least in theory:

  1. knows, and has first-hand experience of how much bullshit one has to go through to immigrate,
  2. has enough bargaining power to move to another immigration-friendly country,
  3. let’s just say that the upcoming US policies don’t seem to be friendly to any immigrants at all…

But then US tech and research are supported largely by the same skilled immigrants. So I’m curious how that is supposed to play out…

Sorry this is a bit of a strange question.

P.S.: I’m… not asking for a friend. I’ve been constantly worried for the past two weeks; I try not to rush to conclusions, so the fact that I’m still worried concerns me. Double quotation marks because in the US it’s literally the same government agency that manages all immigrants no matter how they got in the country (highly skilled worker, family of citizen, asylum, literally just crossed the border, …)

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    14·
    1 day ago

    Hell, the native Americans are immigrants too, they’re just the descendants of the first ones to get here.

    I’m not saying this to detract from the point of the land being stolen by invaders from Europe, I’m saying it to point out that every nation in North, South, and Central America was populated by groups moving here looking for a good place to live. It’s the single most fundamental fact of the continents that we are all, all linked by something; we’re all one big, extended family.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
      61·
      1 day ago

      I wouldn’t go that far. Might as well say anyone outside of Africa is an immigrant at that point.

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        1 day ago

        Well, yeah, that’s the point. I didn’t bring Europe and Asia into it since the original thing was about the U.S., but it applies there too. It applies everywhere.

        We aren’t some magically unique group because of where we live. There’s no inherent barrier between people just because someone got somewhere first.

        I’m not saying that there’s no point in borders, or that nations don’t/can’t have rules about such things.

        I’m just saying that when it comes to the U.S. and the rhetoric around immigration and immigrants, there’s a lot less differences between everyone over on these continents than differences.