Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel writes in her memoir, Freedom: Memoirs 1954 - 2021, that Russian leader Vladimir Putin planned his invasion of Ukraine after her resignation in order to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO.
I’m sure this gets downvoted & censored by the mods again, but it was equally as dumb, if not dumber, of Ukraine to bomb the pipeline. Imagine Germany came to Ukraine and bombed their pipelines coming out of Russia, or whatever other infrastructure they have political issues with. Sabotage acts like this against an ally’s infrastructure are absolutely not okay and could normally be considered an act of war, regardless of what you think of the pipeline from a political point of view. Can’t say I feel good with Ukraine’s EU application now, and Poland’s EU membership as well, since they were also involved. It’s like Ukraine & Poland do not recognize Germany’s sovereignty, which is precisely the way Russia thinks of Ukraine and other countries.
I see where you are coming from, but I think this is not comparable.
Imagine if russia invaded Germany. Took over Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (renaming it to Putlergrad oblast), banned German and forced everyone to speak russian and get russian citizenship. In the mean-time Ukraine and Poland would build a pipeline to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast. How would you feel then?
False equivalence. The pipeline did not go to what I presume would be Crimea in this example. Either way, I would not bomb Poland’s or Ukraine’s pipeline, especially after it was shut down anyway and would’ve easily been solved through politics rather than terrorist like actions - especially considering that Germany is one of Ukraine’s biggest contributors. If Germany was somehow taken over by the AfD or whatever, then fine, bomb away, because at that point you’d have a hostile and Russia aligned government anyway. If you want to join the West, the EU, then you’d have to be better than Russia, not act like them.
I’m sure this gets downvoted & censored by the mods again, but it was equally as dumb, if not dumber, of Ukraine to bomb the pipeline. Imagine Germany came to Ukraine and bombed their pipelines coming out of Russia, or whatever other infrastructure they have political issues with. Sabotage acts like this against an ally’s infrastructure are absolutely not okay and could normally be considered an act of war, regardless of what you think of the pipeline from a political point of view. Can’t say I feel good with Ukraine’s EU application now, and Poland’s EU membership as well, since they were also involved. It’s like Ukraine & Poland do not recognize Germany’s sovereignty, which is precisely the way Russia thinks of Ukraine and other countries.
I see where you are coming from, but I think this is not comparable.
Imagine if russia invaded Germany. Took over Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (renaming it to Putlergrad oblast), banned German and forced everyone to speak russian and get russian citizenship. In the mean-time Ukraine and Poland would build a pipeline to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast. How would you feel then?
False equivalence. The pipeline did not go to what I presume would be Crimea in this example. Either way, I would not bomb Poland’s or Ukraine’s pipeline, especially after it was shut down anyway and would’ve easily been solved through politics rather than terrorist like actions - especially considering that Germany is one of Ukraine’s biggest contributors. If Germany was somehow taken over by the AfD or whatever, then fine, bomb away, because at that point you’d have a hostile and Russia aligned government anyway. If you want to join the West, the EU, then you’d have to be better than Russia, not act like them.