Reminder that lemmy is an echo chamber
Sex Change surgeries on minors aren’t really a thing.
So you’d support banning them?
I would, for sure. My daughter was trans for a few years in high school. I supported her (him at the time) as much as I could. I bought breast binders and new jeans, boots and was as supportive of her choice as I could be. The only thing I put my foot down on was permanent body modification, as she was not capable of making that choice about her body yet and I didn’t feel confident in allowing her to make that choice. So yes, anecdotally and personally, I do not think we should be modifying child bodies before their intellects are mature enough to make life long decisions about themselves. That also includes circumcision.
Nice! That’s a reasonable stance, I think most people are probably where you’re at as well (I guess that’s redundant, it reflects in the poll after all)
You’re probably right but I just wanted to add some lived experience commentary to the narrative.
now that I think about it more, “sex Change surgeries on minors” are a genuine issue that happens quite regularly. however it’s not the kind most people talk about.
I mean “corrective” surgery on intersex people, where the doctor often decides what gender the Child should be based on the size of the penis and then “corrects” or sometimes mutilates the baby’s genitals.
that is also one of the rare scenarios where the kind of “sex change surgery on minors” that most people talk about could be relevant. just imagine the pain a boy would go through after hearing that the doctor cut up their genitals at birth because they didn’t fit neatly into the binary that is expected of babies.
so, no. I don’t think the kind of “sex change surhery on minors” you’re talking about should be banned. it generally isn’t a thing, and sometimes it’s a good thing. we should focus on the horrible things that are done to intersex people.
There are a lot of (albeit impressive) rhetorical smokes screens I’m choosing not to engage with, but there are many interesting points of conversation to be had here.
Staying on topic here:
so, no. I don’t think the kind of “sex change surhery on minors” you’re talking about should be banned. it generally isn’t a thing, and sometimes it’s a good thing.
This is an interesting take. If it’s sometimes a good thing, why does it matter whether or not it’s generally a thing? And, what evidence do you have that allowing them to be legal tends to do more good than harm?
This is an interesting take. If it’s sometimes a good thing, why does it matter whether or not it’s generally a thing? Because many people talk about it like it’s a thing that happens all the time to trans children when really, it isn’t. There’s a lot of fearmongering around this. I think pointing out how insignificant this topic is is important. I don’t have sources that it generally does more harm than good and tbh I’m too lazy to go dig something up for an argument on lemmy. However i think by ignoring my “rhetorical smokescreens” you missed an important point. I think intersex children that have experienced mutilation during infancy are a great example for why sex change surgeries on minors should not be made completely illegal. Generally I don’t think this topic warrants governmental interference.
Because many people talk about it like it’s a thing that happens all the time to trans children when really, it isn’t. There’s a lot of fearmongering around this. I think pointing out how insignificant this topic is is important.
It’s fair to fearmonger over this topic. It causes severe harm and injury to the children who get it in the vast majority of cases. You’re right that it’s also important to talk about how few people are actually getting these surgeries, it has no bearing on whether or not it should be legal.
I think intersex children that have experienced mutilation during infancy are a great example for why sex change surgeries on minors should not be made completely illegal.
Is your argument that mutilating children during infancy should be legal, or illegal? Or, is your argument that sex change surgeries should be allowed to reverse such mutilation? If it’s the latter, would you say that’s the only type of sex change operations available for minors?
It’s fair to fearmonger over this topic
big fucking yikes.
Sex change surgeries on minors aren’t happening. This is a monster under the bed.
Why do conservatives never talk about the large number of gender affirming surgeries that people do on cis minors? Cisgendered kids are getting breast implants, and it’s kind of a big problem.
Sex change surgeries on minors aren’t happening.
The protest from the far left against banning it is even stranger in light of this.
Why do conservatives never talk about the large number of gender affirming surgeries that people do on cis minors? Cisgendered kids are getting breast implants, and it’s kind of a big problem.
I’ve heard some people talk about this to some degree. Is this happening more often that kids taking hormones or getting sex change operations?
I wonder if Republicans would be more outraged if there was a concerted marketing or social push for kids to get breast implants lol. The reactionary right wing outrage machine doesn’t care as much about effects as much as what the left is doing or might doing.
The protest from the far left against banning it is even stranger in light of this.
What’s strangest is those protests only exist in propaganda ‘news’ media.
That actually isn’t strange. Those people are ideologues, and ideologues are pervasive within the mainstream media.
Not to say that there aren’t child sex change supporters in the real world, but they probably outnumber the actual amount of parents who are trying to get their kids chopped up.
Those people are ideologues
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Go out side and touch grass. This isn’t a real problem
Then you shouldn’t have a problem banning stuff that isn’t happening? Just a mild bit of wasted energy.
Guns are a problem and they literally kill kids everyday. So you shouldn’t have a problem with REAL solutions right?
That’s useful energy right?
